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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => Routers / COVR => DGL-5500 => Topic started by: junior2377 on December 22, 2013, 07:19:47 PM
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Two xbox 1's, tried defaults for the router, first one turned on got open but the second one always gets strict.
Tried putting one in dmz, same thing.
Tried one in dmz and forwarding ports to the second, no good.
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No need for DMZ or PF.
Should only need IP and uPnP.
Does 2nd XB1 get OPEN NAT if it's the first one turned on?
What are your SB/ABE settings currently...?
Disable Instant ON feature on both XB1s...What happens?
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I was trying dmz and pf for troubleshooting.
Sb is on and Abe is off.
And yes, the second xbox will get open if it is turned on first
I haven't tried shutting off instant on because that's something I want on. I don't feel as if I should HAVE to disable features (especially one like that) just to get my router to work correctly.
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DMZ and PF isn't needed...
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Understood.
Even with them OFF, it still happens. I turned them on to Troubleshoot and try to see if it WOULD work.
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Try disabling Instant ON on both and see what happens...
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I'll try it when I get a chance, but that's not a solution.
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Any status on this? ???
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Try disabling Instant ON on both and see what happens...
I get OPEN NAT on both my Xbox One's without having to disable INSTANT ON ;D
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HOW? Please BiggShooter do tell! I'd love to use my instant on but I get strict on my second console as well.
I get OPEN NAT on both my Xbox One's without having to disable INSTANT ON ;D
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How do you have your XB1s connected to the 5500?
HOW? Please BiggShooter do tell! I'd love to use my instant on but I get strict on my second console as well.
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Both of mines are hardwired. One direct and one connected to a dlink Dap 1522 AP on the second floor of the house. Instant On option causes strict on one or the other every single time for me. powersaving mode keeps them both open.
How do you have your XB1s connected to the 5500?
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I've seen issues with using DAPs, what happens if you wire direct if possible the 2nd XB1.
Regarding DAPs, they can have a non-transparent IP address that appears as a 2ndary IP address. I notice this with my 1533, 865L and 868L in bridge mode. Even though I manually set a static IP address on each, the main host router assigns a different one that I see under the Dynamic Clients list. I presume that this may or may not have some impact on NAT. :-\
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I haven't tried both to the 5500 but I will say the one connected gets strict NAT if the other is turned on first. Which ever one is powered on second gets strict. Doing multiplayer connection test and holding all top buttons opens it. Just annoying to have to do that.
Hope bigshooter can shed some light on the subject.
I've seen issues with using DAPs, what happens if you wire direct if possible the 2nd XB1.
Regarding DAPs, they can have a non-transparent IP address that appears as a 2ndary IP address. I notice this with my 1533, 865L and 868L in bridge mode. Even though I manually set a static IP address on each, the main host router assigns a different one that I see under the Dynamic Clients list. I presume that this may or may not have some impact on NAT. :-\
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When you can, give both wired to the 5500 if you can. Need to rule out the DAP interfering.
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Will give that a try. I see plenty of post saying the problem is the instant on function unless that's been fixed over the past couple of months. Not just dlink routers either.
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Would hope that MS has done something about it as I presume it's there problem to fix...
Keep us posted.
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BiggShooter told me both of his XB1s are wired, however one is wired to a DIR-868L, however thats in wired AP mode thats wired to the DGL-5500 so technically, that XB1 is wired. The other is wired to the back of the 5500...
I haven't tried both to the 5500 but I will say the one connected gets strict NAT if the other is turned on first. Which ever one is powered on second gets strict. Doing multiplayer connection test and holding all top buttons opens it. Just annoying to have to do that.
Hope bigshooter can shed some light on the subject.
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my dap 1522 is wired to the back of the 5500 also. 1 xb1 to the back of the 5500 and the other xb1 to the back of the dap. if both consoles are turned on at the same time WITH instant on set to on, which ever console it turned on first is open nat, the other is strict still. My boy has the same issue using a 4500 and a verizon router. long as instant on is changed to power saving they both will be open.
If Biggshooter has both open on the 5500 it doesn't appear that it's MS problem then. I've got to find out the EXACT SETTINGS he has on his router and maybe compare and take it from there. Unless like you said its the dap causing the problem with instant on.
BiggShooter told me both of his XB1s are wired, however one is wired to a DIR-868L, however thats in wired AP mode thats wired to the DGL-5500 so technically, that XB1 is wired. The other is wired to the back of the 5500...
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Need to test the 2nd one directly connected to the 5500 router and see if DAP is cause or not...I presume anything could be happening...
my dap 1522 is wired to the back of the 5500 also. 1 xb1 to the back of the 5500 and the other xb1 to the back of the dap. if both consoles are turned on at the same time WITH instant on set to on, which ever console it turned on first is open nat, the other is strict still. My boy has the same issue using a 4500 and a verizon router. long as instant on is changed to power saving they both will be open.
If Biggshooter has both open on the 5500 it doesn't appear that it's MS problem then. I've got to find out the EXACT SETTINGS he has on his router and maybe compare and take it from there. Unless like you said its the dap causing the problem with instant on.
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Ok so I've tested both hardwired to the 5500 for the past hour or so and it doesn't help. One will still have strict no matter what. Furry if you have a way to contact Biggshooter maybe you can see what he's running on his router to get it done. I still believe it's the "instant on" feature.
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He said he was going to test again on his XB1s to be sure...
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ok cool I'll keep an eye out for a response. This has been a hot topic on the xbox forums as well so If he has the answer he'll be a hero lol.
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Is there a link to a specific toping on the XBL forums regarding this?
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http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/xbox_one_support/f/4267/p/1634443/4250728.aspx
here is one. the second one is a private group for the members of the beta preview so not sure if you will be able to see it.
http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/xbox_update_preview/xbox_one_preview_support/f/4586/t/1705635.aspx
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I've forwarded this onto D-Link as well...from what I know, MS has been testing the DGL-5500 with the XB1. I don't know about how many though. ::)
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cool. hopefully something comes out of it
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Last info we go was:
"Initial 5GHz connection was established as Strict but reverted to Open after a NAT reset (bumper and trigger pull as outlined below). Verified multiplayer capable with Forza.
uPNP should be enabled
QoS disabled
No port forwarding rules defined"
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I can confirm that works for me as well however it's easier just not to use instant on than to have to go in settings and run a multiplayer connection test, hold buttons etc every single time you turn on your console. It should just work lol. Nobody wants to have to work for an open connection.
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Ya I know... I think this is a issue between MS and Router Mfrs...others reported happening on other Mfr routers...Ya it should "just" work.
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BS said that he's now getting strict NAT on both XB1s. However he's recently move and his network configuration changed. Before he had a network switch in between the 5500 and the 868L which the XB1 was connected. After he moved, the switch was removed. He's going to try adding the switch again and see what happens.
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hmmmmm...Thats interesting to say the least. Looking forward to hearing back.
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Will be later this afternoon or evening when the wife goes to work. ::)
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http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/xbox_update_preview/xbox_one_preview_support/f/4586/p/1705635/4546058.aspx#4546058
Furry can you explain to me what an ARP Table is? This user on xbox.com is suggesting maybe that's causing the problem with instant on function.
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Can you confirm this link again? I'm getting the following when I try to view it from my account:
Group Not Found
The requested Group cannot be found.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arptables (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arptables)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_Resolution_Protocol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_Resolution_Protocol)
http://www.ehow.com/how_7579023_clear-arp-table.html (http://www.ehow.com/how_7579023_clear-arp-table.html)
Do you still have your 4500? It would be a good test to see what happens with the 4500 and two XB1s and Instant On...
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was afraid that would happen. Thats in the private forum. Here's copy of it.
Him: Is the router dropping its ARP tables as in are they dynamic as opposed to static this may be why it looses the ports during sleep period ? Other than that if no port trigger is available have you tried putting one in port forward rules and one in DMZ ( I know it will hamper coms to internal lan devices but may work as workaround)
Ive seen plenty of home routers in the past that drop the arp tables due to being dynamic and in my case stops WOL from targeting the correct device internally from external ip my fix was to enable static nat ( ISP may not allow this on the supplied device so bridge mode to device where you can set arp tables to static thus ports should stay mapped through sleep period) ?????
The fault in this case to me is the router, dynamic arp tables will cause mapped ports to drop when a device sleeps so setting static ARP should stabilize it unless the UPNP on that device is also set to drop port maps when they sleep ??
Me: Bliss IRL I've tried putting one in dmz and the other port forwarded. One is still strict in that case. All devices are dynamic however the ip's are reserved so they never change ip addresses. I've had the same ip addresses on both since launch day so thats not the issue for me.
Him: O h i see so it was working previous to the last update is that What we are saying ?? ARP tables are not usually accessible via web gui - usually done via ssh or telnet to device and setting the device to hold static records may reslove this as workaround though.
IF it was fine before the latest update then this is a for fix issue for M$.
Other strange things ive seen since day one on XB1 if using wifi encryption say for example WPA PSK 2 - i have seen the XB1 display strict NAT, The only thing i could do in that case to alleviate for my buddy was to disable the encryption fully on the AP and set allow mac assigned access list only ( With broadcast of loads of bogus ssid's for little extra security ) This is not ideal but even with firewall off it would still show strict nat made no bloody sense at all until i pulled down the wifi encryption may imply encapsulation issue possibly i dunno ????
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Are you and this person referencing this model router?
Test the XB1s with WPA2 and AES only as a test...
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Mines are both hardwired. I'll connect mines to wifi just to do this as a test tho. Can't hurt to try. I'm not sure what router he's running.
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Might find out.
BS told me this morning that his 2 XB1s have been up dated and are both seeing OPEN NAT with Instant ON enabled on both.
Let us know if you can test the 4500 out too...or a different router...
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wow...Did he put the switch back in place? Both of mines have been updated for a few days now I was part of the early preview. If he still has open after powering them off and back on then thats interesting. I need to see what settings he has. any ports forwarded? or just upnp?
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Ya I'm bugging him now to get off Ghosts and post in the forums. LOL ::)
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hahaha ok cool
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May be a long shot but do you think it may have something to do with the actiontec I have connected to the 5500?
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What model Modem do you have? BS has DSL and I believe and Actiontec modem...one he bought...
I presume that the modem is giving full public IP addressing to the router?
You could try putting the modem in to router mode and then put the IP address that the 5500 gets from them modem into the modems DMZ and test....
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actiontec mi424wr rev i is the model I have. so you're saying put the ip that the 5500 gives the fios router into the fios dmx or the 5500 dmz? only reason it's connected even is to get info and on demand to my fios boxes.
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No, if the FIOS modem is acting like a router, the 5500 will get a 192 or 172 or 10. IP address string on the 5500s WAN side. Look at the IP address on the 5500 WAN side and see what it gets from the ISP modem. Input this IP address into the modems DMZ, not the 5500 DMZ.
However I believe that BSs modem is fully bridged to the 5500...
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Furry can't you do screen sharing? If so take a look at my settings lol make both of our lives easier.
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Ya I'm bugging him now to get off Ghosts and post in the forums. LOL ::)
Ok...Ok. Working on putting together a post. Stay Tuned! ::)
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We can use teamviewer if you want...or do you want to wait for BS to post first?
Furry can't you do screen sharing? If so take a look at my settings lol make both of our lives easier.
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The savior is here finally! lol standing by
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I wouldn't mind using team viewer lets do it. Atleast you can see if any other settings I currently have are wrong
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There all wrong already. I can tell. Ha. :D
Send me a PM with ID and PW, please be wired to the router...
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I will try to be as detailed as I can. I will UPDATE / MODIFY this post if more clarification is needed. ;)
This is my current NETWORKING hardware:
Actiontec C1000A (currently subscribe to CenturyLink with speeds of 20/2)
D'Link DGL-5500 (Router) located on Main Level of home
D'Link DIR-868L (Access Point) located on Second Level of home
HP ProCurve 1810G-8 Network Switch (J9449A) located on Main Level of home
HP ProCurve 1810G-8 Network Switch (J9449A) located on Second Level of home
Here is my current NETWORKING configuration (all connections hardwired using CAT6 ethernet cable) reference my NETWORKING hardware:
Actiontec C1000A connected to D'Link DGL-5500 (INTERNET JACK - yellow)
D'Link DGL-5500 (LAN 3) connected to D'Link DIR-868L (LAN 3)
D'Link DGL-5500 (LAN 4) connected to HP ProCurve 1810G-8 Network Switch (Port 1)
D'Link DIR-868L (LAN 4) connected to HP ProCurve 1810G-8 Network Switch (Port 1)
Here is my current NETWORKING configuration (all connections hardwired using CAT6 ethernet cable) reference connected devices:
Xbox One (reserved IP address) connected to D'Link DGL-5500 (LAN 1) - Instant On setting enabled
Xbox 360 (reserved IP address) connected to D'Link DGL-5500 (LAN 2)
DirecTv HR34-700 (reserved IP address) connected to HP ProCurve 1810G-8 Network Switch (Port 2)
Denon AVR 3311ci (reserved IP address) connected to HP ProCurve 1810G-8 Network Switch (Port 3)
58" Panasonic Plasma (reserved IP address) connected to HP ProCurve 1810G-8 Network Switch (Port 4)
ADT Home Alarm System connected to HP ProCurve 1810G-8 Network Switch (Port 8)
Xbox One (reserved IP address) connected to D'Link DIR-868L (LAN 1) - Instant On setting enabled
Xbox 360 (reserved IP address) connected to D'Link DIR-868L (LAN 2)
DirecTv HR24-500 (reserved IP address) connected to HP ProCurve 1810G-8 Network Switch (Port 2)
DirecTv Genie GO (reserved IP address) connected to HP ProCurve 1810G-8 Network Switch (Port 3)
50" Panasonic Plasma (reserved IP address) connected to HP ProCurve 1810G-8 Network Switch (Port 4)
I also have the following devices connected wirelessly to my Home Network:
*27" iMac (5Ghz)
*13" MacBook Air (5Ghz)
*(2)iPad 4th Generation (2.4Ghz)
*iPad Mini (2.4Ghz)
*(3) iPhone 5 (2.4Ghz)
*iPhone 5s (2.4GHz)
*(2) Nest Thermostats
*Withings WS-50 Smart Body Analyzer
Prior to our move across town, I had subscribed speeds of 40/5 (CenturyLink Pure Broadband). I was able to get OPEN NAT on both Xbox One consoles with Instant On. After our move (early February) I was only got OPEN NAT on one Xbox One console (first one powered on) if both were powered on with Instant On.
Early this morning, I turned on the Xbox One (main level) and it began a system update. After it completed the system update, I turned on the second Xbox One (second level) and it began a system update. I checked the Network Settings / Current Network Status and determined the Xbox One (main level) had OPEN NAT. After the Xbox One (second level) completed the system update, I checked the Network Settings / Current Network Status and determined the Xbox One (second level) had OPEN NAT.
:o :o :o :o WHAT!! :o :o :o :o
I initially thought that maybe because both Xbox One consoles had been reset due to the system update, that this was the reason for both Xbox One consoles displaying OPEN NAT. I DID confirmed that INSTANT ON was still set up like I had it prior to the system update (thought maybe it reset to original out-of-the-box settings). I shut down the Xbox One (second level) and waited 10 seconds, leaving the Xbox One (main level) powered on. I powered on the Xbox One (second level), checked the NETWORK SETTINGS / CURRENT NETWORK STATUS and determined I STILL HAD OPEN NAT on the Xbox One (second level).
I'm not sure if the latest Xbox One console system update pushed out today addressed the issues people were having with only one Xbox One console getting OPEN NAT and all others getting STRICT NAT (when powered on using INSTANT ON). I'm hoping someone else can confirm. ;)
**FYI - Most of you probably have the ENABLE AUTO BANDWIDTH ESTIMATION box checked, I DO NOT. I have the ENABLE AUTO BANDWIDTH ESTIMATION box UNCHECKED. I do have '100' in the Download Speed (Mbps) box, and '10' in the Upload Speed (Mbps) box. FYI**
;D SO, TO SUM IT UP, I DO HAVE OPEN NAT on BOTH XBOX ONE CONSOLES USING INSTANT ON ;D
[Is this detailed enough Furry?] :D
Are you using DNS relay or is that disabled and using custom DNS?
Have you adjusted the XB1s in the priority list or just left the priorities alone?
**ENABLE DNS RELAY box is UNCHECKED** (updated 03/05/2014)
**Xbox One (main level) has PRIORITY 1 / Xbox One (second level) has PRIORITY 2 << This was my set up after adding the Xbox One consoles to my Home Network a few months ago** (updated 03/05/2014)
MTU 1492 is being used on the router.
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Please be detailed as possible. Include your HP model switch info too.
Thank you sir.
Both my Xbox One consoles have OPEN NAT.
There Furry, I posted. HA
OK...just kidding. I will modify this post with as much detailed information as I can
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NO, this is a complete lack of any useful information. Ha. ::)
Kidding,
Are you using DNS relay or is that disabled and using custom DNS?
Have you adjusted the XB1s in the priority list or just left the priorities alone?
What MTU value do you have set on the 5500?
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Late last night I turned on my second xb1 after being off for a few hours and it was indeed strict. A guy in the xbox forums is pretty adamant that this is a ARP issue.
Also wanted to report one of the main support guys chimed in with this
" Just a follow up, we have one of these routers and the developers are putting it into rotation for in depth testing to identify root cause. "
Post from the ARP guy
ARP ARP ARP ARP ARP the mac drops in the ARP table while it sleeps !!! you have proven it by giving it time to repro. As with Dlink Eng you were testing to quickly as the arp cache had not yet been dropped.
Its the only link in the chain that will suffer a change im almost sure of this , as i ve seen it happen in many other circumstances with two device's. ( Not necessarily only consoles)
MTU Is MOOT in this equation.
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So using any value MTU doesnt' fix this, it's when the XB1 sleep for a long period of time if Instant On is enabled and wake is when Strict NAT is seen regardless of reboot of router or not?
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That could very well be the case. When I get home in a few hours I will set MTU back to default and test some different time intervals. Do you know how long it would take for the router to release ARP connection from a device? Is it even supposed to do that? Lol
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I have no idea about the ARP table. I'll pass this onto D-Link and see if they will respond with any info.
Keep us posted...
That could very well be the case. When I get home in a few hours I will set MTU back to default and test some different time intervals. Do you know how long it would take for the router to release ARP connection from a device? Is it even supposed to do that? Lol
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So D-Link has passed on this information to the MS team who's supposed to be working on this. It seems still up in the air weather or not if this is a FW issue on the 5500 or with XB1 and there FW. ::)
I presume it might take some time or MS to eventually help figure this out. Keep the MS forum going and the information flowing as much as possible. Will keep info going here.
Is there a link to a public forum where this is being held at over there? Or is this all private?
Please be patient.
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Sounds good bro. I have no problem with patience long as someone is working on it. Unfortunately the thread is in a private forum. I can request to have it moved and see what happens.
Has this problem been reported on any other Dlink routers or just the 5500?
So D-Link has passed on this information to the MS team who's supposed to be working on this. It seems still up in the air weather or not if this is a FW issue on the 5500 or with XB1 and there FW. ::)
I presume it might take some time or MS to eventually help figure this out. Keep the MS forum going and the information flowing as much as possible. Will keep info going here.
Is there a link to a public forum where this is being held at over there? Or is this all private?
Please be patient.
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I haven't seen any as of yet on other model routers...why I asked you if you still had your DGL-4500. If you do, this would be a good test...I might as BS if he can test his out as well...
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Latest reply to the xbox thread.
Best of luck with it my man, seems alot of people are looking for this answer, There must be a way to workaround the dynamic arp on home routers , the issue leans more in the direction of the routers not holding static arp tables , I can bet you if you can enable static arp that this issue should go away maybe Dlink can do that for you ??? ( Standard expectation of home routers are that you'll have one port targeting one device and not two this is the hurdle that is catching both MS and home router makers i guess)
Is this even possible? Maybe the guys at dlink can answer this for you.
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Lets see what MS comes up with in there testing. This is the only game console with this feature and with this problem on the DGL-5500. I presume once MS has seen this issue and the problem that either they will fix it or get a hold of D-Link and advise them if this is a router problem.
Do you still have a different router? DGL-4500?
OH BTW, BS told me that he now has strict NAT on his XB1s after doing a reboot on the router while they have the instant ON enabled and sleeping. ::)
Latest reply to the xbox thread.
Best of luck with it my man, seems alot of people are looking for this answer, There must be a way to workaround the dynamic arp on home routers , the issue leans more in the direction of the routers not holding static arp tables , I can bet you if you can enable static arp that this issue should go away maybe Dlink can do that for you ??? ( Standard expectation of home routers are that you'll have one port targeting one device and not two this is the hurdle that is catching both MS and home router makers i guess)
Is this even possible? Maybe the guys at dlink can answer this for you.
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>:( damn it! Lol
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Do you still have a different router? DGL-4500?
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Only other one I have is the actiontec which i'm honestly considering trying with the port triggering setting and see if that works. Not sure how to set up triggers tho. If that works the easy solution would be to add triggering to the 5500.
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I wouldn't set up any triggering, just ensure the uPnP is enabled...it would be a good test to see if something different works or on with the XB1s. Then maybe setup QoS or what ever the Actiontec has for QoS...
Let us know the results...
Only other one I have is the actiontec which i'm honestly considering trying with the port triggering setting and see if that works. Not sure how to set up triggers tho. If that works the easy solution would be to add triggering to the 5500.
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I tried the actiontec at my dads house(which is now where my 4500 is) with only upnp and it was the same result. One open one strict. Only thing i havent tried is port triggering which is the only thing i've seen work for people with 2 xb1's so far. Never tried myself tho because i wanted my consoles behind streamboost
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So the problem is the same on something different as well...Makes be think this is a MS issue and not D-Links alone....
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It would appear that way for certain. Just the fact that the console will read open after doing multiplayer connection test says is on ms end in my opinion. I'll see what happens tho. I've gotta find some info on setting up triggers tonight.
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More info that may help from xbox forum on how to change arp of router
If the router/modem is isp branded then they may lock you out of ssh or port 22 to the device, if you are in the know with the Dlink guys they should have a test firmware that you can then ssh to the router and list the condition of the arp tables list , to see or set it to manual.
Not for your device but see this type of workaround is the general jist of what may be needed.
https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-4895
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Can you correct that URL to be a complete one?
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Try that.
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Now hyper link it? ;D
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https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-4895 (https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-4895)
LOL oops
Now hyper link it? ;D
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Thank you sir. ;D
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In speaking to xbox live networking guys again today here is what I was told...
"with internal testing we found that instant on only caused this issue because most routers are not resetting UPNP certificates. While this is an issue it does not cause nat. That is still on the routers end.
Nat with multiple consoles has been an issue since the original xbox and while instant on does exacerbate the issue the issue at its heart still lies within the local networking equipment. There are very few routers that can handle two xboxes."
Thoughts? Any way to check if upnp certs aren't being reset as ms claims to be the case?
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Hmmm, Interesting information.
The comment about very few routers handling two xboxes going back to the original, makes me wonder why I have to do a factory reset on my 360s every time I change routers or connections on the 360s to make the NAT OPEN up. Also I've been using two 360s for a while. Others have been using 3 or more. Hmmm. I'm not fully confident in MS fully putting it on the router. Makes me wonder what router models they consider handling of two xboxes? Most of my testing has been over several D-Link routers and non D-Link as well. This is with 360s mind you as I don't have any XB1s.
I presume this uPnP certificate handling behavior is behind the scenes in FW and is not viewable from our side of the fence.
I'll pass this along to D-Link for review. Thank you for sharing this information. I'll post back if I hear anything.
In speaking to xbox live networking guys again today here is what I was told...
"with internal testing we found that instant on only caused this issue because most routers are not resetting UPNP certificates. While this is an issue it does not cause nat. That is still on the routers end.
Nat with multiple consoles has been an issue since the original xbox and while instant on does exacerbate the issue the issue at its heart still lies within the local networking equipment. There are very few routers that can handle two xboxes."
Thoughts? Any way to check if upnp certs aren't being reset as ms claims to be the case?
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Any status on this?
I'll try it when I get a chance, but that's not a solution.
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junior and dyvurcz,
I received information that D-Link is working with MS on this issue. MS is aware of this issue and the problem may have been identified. D-Link is working with MS on testing of this problem and hopes a fix will be released. When was not mentioned.
So please be patient. They are working on it. ;)
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I literally just came here to report this! Lol if you recall I was working closely with one of the main live guys over there on this and he messaged me 12 am this morn saying they believe to have the fix. I'm in the xb1 preview program so as soon as the next build is out I'll let you know how it goes.
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Ya I remember now. Glad MS is actively working on it.
Keep us posted. ;)
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Update: Just got word that the new 1407 update has some changes to the way xbox one addresses NAT coming out of standby. Hopefully I will have the new fw by tomorrow. I'll report back as soon as I get to test it further.
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Is this a SB update? ???
Update: Just got word that the new 1407 update has some changes to the way xbox one addresses NAT coming out of standby. Hopefully I will have the new fw by tomorrow. I'll report back as soon as I get to test it further.
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No its an update to the xb1 fw that hasnt been released to the general public yet.
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Ah, kewl, thanks for the clarification. Hope it helps the XB1 users out. We hope that with this combined with the FW thats headed this way that the XB1 issues will be resolved. ::)
Please keep us posted.
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Finally: ;)
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=59817.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=59817.0)
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Can you verify if this is still happening with the new Beta?
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=60972.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=60972.0)
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Will do as soon as I update the firmware on my router. Maybe tonight.
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Hopefully we can change the bug status too. ::)
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=55014.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=55014.0)
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Just an fyi I did some testing and the 2 consoles issue still hasn't been resolved with this release.
Hopefully we can change the bug status too. ::)
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=55014.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=55014.0)
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I noticed strict on mine after i started to set a reservation on the router to something other than what was given by the router. I turned off Instant on and even powered it fully off and disabled and reenabked the nic and still saw Strict. After leaving it along for a long while. I can back later and saw Open. I presumed that Strict was a result of the XB1 handling of a new ip address and a coupke of games that was in the queue being downloaded l, it could not clear the strict state until the downloads completed. I have yet to test with the 360 online at the same time. Ill try to get to that soon.
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Interesting...I know for a fact that using instant on will still give one console strict if you have multiple consoles without fail every time. As far as I know microsoft is still working on the issue and more than likely there won't be anything Dlink can add to this router to fix it.
I noticed strict on mine after i started to set a reservation on the router to something other than what was given by the router. I turned off Instant on and even powered it fully off and disabled and reenabked the nic and still saw Strict. After leaving it along for a long while. I can back later and saw Open. I presumed that Strict was a result of the XB1 handling of a new ip address and a coupke of games that was in the queue being downloaded l, it could not clear the strict state until the downloads completed. I have yet to test with the 360 online at the same time. Ill try to get to that soon.
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Ill chk to see what happens with the other 360 online and see what i find. Once I got my XB1 set up there was one big update for it and that was it. Then the games had to be loaded.
Interesting...I know for a fact that using instant on will still give one console strict if you have multiple consoles without fail every time. As far as I know microsoft is still working on the issue and more than likely there won't be anything Dlink can add to this router to fix it.
I noticed strict on mine after i started to set a reservation on the router to something other than what was given by the router. I turned off Instant on and even powered it fully off and disabled and reenabked the nic and still saw Strict. After leaving it along for a long while. I can back later and saw Open. I presumed that Strict was a result of the XB1 handling of a new ip address and a coupke of games that was in the queue being downloaded l, it could not clear the strict state until the downloads completed. I have yet to test with the 360 online at the same time. Ill try to get to that soon.
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Just FYI, I was able to connect both 360 and XB1, both wired and both had OPEN NAT. I couldn't actually game on both as I don't have a 2nd XBL account. However looking at the NAT on the 360 first, it was open, then turning on the XB1, NAT was OPEN in Settings and in game. I got a notice that the 360 was logged off due to multiple accounts being online at the same time. Hehe. v1.13 B02 loaded.
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There has never been an issue with the 360 and xb1. The issue is with 2 Xbox 1's.
Just FYI, I was able to connect both 360 and XB1, both wired and both had OPEN NAT. I couldn't actually game on both as I don't have a 2nd XBL account. However looking at the NAT on the 360 first, it was open, then turning on the XB1, NAT was OPEN in Settings and in game. I got a notice that the 360 was logged off due to multiple accounts being online at the same time. Hehe. v1.13 B02 loaded.
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Yes i know. Wanted to confirm what i have and tested.
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Oh ok. Question. If you have say verizon Fios as your ISP do they supply you with a private or public IP address? Someone suggested to me that if you have a public ip you will get open Nat.
Yes i know. Wanted to confirm what i have and tested.
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Public IP adress is tye only way to get OPEN nat correctly. Maybe the use of DMZ if the modem cant be bridged.
Are you not getting a public address?
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I assume it's public i don't know lol.
Public IP adress is tye only way to get OPEN nat correctly. Maybe the use of DMZ if the modem cant be bridged.
Are you not getting a public address?
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If your router shows a 192 or 172 or a 10.something ip address on the WAN side, thats a private IP address.
I assume it's public i don't know lol.
Public IP adress is tye only way to get OPEN nat correctly. Maybe the use of DMZ if the modem cant be bridged.
Are you not getting a public address?
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Yup it's 192 so never mind.
If your router shows a 192 or 172 or a 10.something ip address on the WAN side, thats a private IP address.
I assume it's public i don't know lol.
Public IP adress is tye only way to get OPEN nat correctly. Maybe the use of DMZ if the modem cant be bridged.
Are you not getting a public address?
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Ya, you need to have your ISP get you a public IP address or try putting the 5500 into the FIOS DMZ.
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I don't have any XB specific experience, however if you didn't want to place it in the DMZ, couldn't you just set a static internal IP for the XB and forward all the ports used by Live to that IP?
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Not in a double NAT condition. Again, this thread is about having 2 same model XB1s connected to this model router seem to have issues. MS and D-Link are aware of it. If the router is in a single NAT condition, then we can rule out the ISP modem services.
I don't have any XB specific experience, however if you didn't want to place it in the DMZ, couldn't you just set a static internal IP for the XB and forward all the ports used by Live to that IP?