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Author Topic: Can this be used as a wireless bridge?  (Read 13094 times)

matsemann

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Can this be used as a wireless bridge?
« on: January 07, 2010, 11:45:40 AM »

Hi everyone!

I've just gotten this box in my hands but really unsure if I have to send it back. I've had a look on the forum and found the "secret" bridge mode, but is it possible to make this work in a wireless environment?

Here's my situation: DSL box at on end of the apartment. Got a new steroe receiver I'd love to hook up to my wireless network but it doesn't have a wireless input, just good old ethernet. Pulling a cable all the way through won't happen. The DIR-665 has gotten some great reviews so I thought it would do the trick, but I may be wrong.

In this thread http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=9629.0 EddieZ says he has done it, but I've had no luck so far. Anyone care to confirm if it's possible and help me out a bit? I rarely touch my network settings so everytime I have to set something new up I go through a small nightmare.

Cheers,
Mats
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EddieZ

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Re: Can this be used as a wireless bridge?
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2010, 02:05:49 PM »

What you need/want is a wireless bridge. That's something different from a 'bridge'/'AP'.

The bridge feature on the DIR means you turn off the specific 'router' features. No DHCP, no firewall, no DNS relay etc. You do need to attach an ethernet cable from the modem (which takes care of DHCP etc). The ip's are then 'relayed' by the DIR, through wire and wireless (AP). So you're 'bridging the modems signal.

You need a pair of these Netgear WNEHDE111 router to setup an wireless connection between modem and the stereo with ethernet plug (the signal is send from modem--wired--netgear 1 - - wless - -netgear2---wired---stereo)

A set of DIR's cannot perform this though AFAIK
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matsemann

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Re: Can this be used as a wireless bridge?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2010, 12:15:24 AM »

Thanks for the answer. That was sort of what I was dreading, but maybe I should put it to use anyway as a replacement for the DSL router the ISP company provides me, which ain't the best.


So, for my setup to work, which would look something like this:

Modem--wired--DIR665 -- wireless -- magic box -- wired -- steroe

Where the magic box could be the WNEHDE111? Or will I have problems with using the DIR665 for this?




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matsemann

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Re: Can this be used as a wireless bridge?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2010, 01:00:57 AM »

Been thinking...  instead of struggling with the wireless, why not just set up a HomePlug to take care of the stereo receiver's needs?
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Ronneske

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Re: Can this be used as a wireless bridge?
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2010, 10:14:47 AM »

If you have any amateur stations in the area: Please don't use them.

Please do some youtube searching on "PLC" that is the effect of these horrible devices.

Thanks for making our hobby possible !

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matsemann

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Re: Can this be used as a wireless bridge?
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2010, 02:12:21 PM »

Huh?
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EddieZ

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Re: Can this be used as a wireless bridge?
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2010, 02:14:45 PM »

not a related reply I think.

What's the magic box? The music server? Does it need to be connected to the stereo?
 
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matsemann

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Re: Can this be used as a wireless bridge?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2010, 12:02:34 AM »

The magic box was meant to symbolise another router or bridge. Seeing as it seemed like you needed a pair of those Netgear boxes you posted I was thinking about what would go with the DIR 665 router.

I've ordered two HomePlug connectors so if I get the speed I want I'll ship the DIR 665 back.
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Krusher

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Re: Can this be used as a wireless bridge?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2010, 06:11:14 PM »

Homeplug devices generally don't work that well from the reviews I have seen.  AC wiring was made for 60Hz power, not the frequencies required for high-speed data transmission.  You also can't put your homeplug into a surge suppressor, because any high-quality surge suppressor will filter out the upper frequencies.  So, it must go before the suppressor and therefore is likely to get 'hit' quite easily.

Regardless, when you get those plugged in, please let us know what speeds you get.  Some people do have good luck with them; so I don't want to totally bash your purchase.  :)
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matsemann

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Re: Can this be used as a wireless bridge?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2010, 02:02:09 PM »

I'll keep you posted when I get them. Hopefully tomorrow!
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matsemann

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Re: Can this be used as a wireless bridge?
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2010, 05:03:42 AM »

Forgot to update it, but the PowerLAN didn't work as well expected. Have some friends that are able to stream HD content but I only managed a small trickle of max 6-7MB/second. Haven't spent much time to try different power outputs in my flat as I'm pretty much stuck with the ones I intend to use.
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lotacus

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Re: Can this be used as a wireless bridge?
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2010, 10:23:23 AM »

Our isp a while back installed these little Corinex CableLAN adapters when we got cable and internet. Suffice to say, when we canceled the services, I kept them. Now I use them to connect my ps3 and computer which is hooked up to the LCD TV to the router in the other room. Works great.
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pender

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Re: Can this be used as a wireless bridge?
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2010, 04:44:33 AM »

Perhaps you should have got the Gigabit Powerline kit instead of a 85 or 200Mbps kit, but 7MBps is 56 Mbps and is pretty good and better than most wireless solutions.  AFAIK all Powerline suck and usually overheat and die after 6 months (about 50% die within a year).  I had tried an 85Mbps kit and was not satisfied.  Also do not use them with power bars or surge bars or they do not work well at all.
http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=495008

If you can afford it ($200) and have cable TV subscription in the areas you need, try a MoCa kit because they get 70Mbps (8MBps).  This doesn't have the overheating issue like powerlines do but also don't work if they are better a cable signal booster.
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/lanwan-reviews/30743-ethernet-from-your-tv-outlet-netgear-moca-coax-ethernet-adapter-kit-reviewed
http://www.netgear.com/Products/PowerlineNetworking/Coax/MCAB1001.aspx

Also, a single WNEHDE111 will not work with the 655 because it is only 5Ghz and the 655 is 2.4Ghz only.  Consider a DD-WRT bridge like a refurbished netgear WNR834B for $30.  You should easily get 40Mbps at decent range which is good for the money and the DD-WRT firmware enables some other nice features too.
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lotacus

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Re: Can this be used as a wireless bridge?
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2010, 09:24:47 AM »

Probably the best solution. I purchased an open box wrt160 for 40.00 loaded it up with dd-wrt and use that as a wireless bridge to connect the two networks.
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