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Author Topic: DIR-655 waking my server from S3 Sleep  (Read 41151 times)

pookeyhead

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DIR-655 waking my server from S3 Sleep
« on: January 17, 2010, 05:45:01 AM »

As the title suggests, I'm having trouble keeping my server asleep.  I've been thorough in my process of elimination, and have narrowed it down the DIR-655.

I am trying to get my server to go to sleep after say, 30 mins..  and stay asleep until either me, or my wife try to access a file on it.  However, it wakes up around 30 seconds after going into sleep...  every time.

I've disconnected everything else from the network, and it still does it.

I've disconnected my modem from the router, thus having no WAN access, and it still does it.

No other software is running on the server that is waking it up.

No tasks are running that can wake it up.

However, if I pull the ethernet cable from the back of the rig, it sleeps just fine.

I've disabled DHCP as all machines have a static IP.

I'm at a loss as to what else to do now.  Clearly the router is broadcasting something that keeps the server awake.

Any suggestions?

I hope so, otherwise the DIR-655 goes into the trash.  I need the server to sleep when not required.
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Cobra

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Re: DIR-655 waking my server from S3 Sleep
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2010, 10:35:54 AM »

However, if I pull the ethernet cable from the back of the rig, it sleeps just fine.

You answered your own question.

You need to go into device manager > network adapter > power management

Disable any "wake the computer" or "wake on magic packet".
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pookeyhead

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Re: DIR-655 waking my server from S3 Sleep
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2010, 12:33:50 PM »

You answered your own question.

You need to go into device manager > network adapter > power management

Disable any "wake the computer" or "wake on magic packet".


Errr...  then it would never wake on LAN   LOL

You didn't read my post fully did you :)

I WANT it to wake on LAN...   when the server is accessed.   The problem I am having is that it will come out of sleep after 30 seconds for no damned reason.  I want it to stay asleep until either myself, or my wife access the server.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2010, 12:36:14 PM by pookeyhead »
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Cobra

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Re: DIR-655 waking my server from S3 Sleep
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2010, 01:53:29 PM »

Another thing that can cause this is mouse power management wake.

Wake on LAN is real flakey IMO so I just disable it.
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Re: DIR-655 waking my server from S3 Sleep
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2010, 02:36:11 PM »

Put the PC on standby, then immediately yank the cord. You'll be able to tell for sure if it's because of something that only runs when the network is hooked up.

Check the BIOS to see if wake-on-LAN is set to something like "any activity" too.

If that fails, you'd probably have the exact same problem no matter what network gear you use. Instead of putting it on standby, try dynamically clocking the cpu and northbridge down as much as possible with a tool like RMClock or CrystalCPUID, to minimize power draw. A small investment in quieter fans goes a long way if it's a living room PC, too.
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pookeyhead

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Re: DIR-655 waking my server from S3 Sleep
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2010, 12:19:43 AM »

It's already underclocked.  It's a Celeron E3200 and it's running at 1.2GHz and heavily undervolted, but even so, I don't want it "on" when for 60% of the time it's not actually doing anything, especially as the LSI RAID card seems to lack provision for spinning the drives down.

I've pulled the ethernet cable as soon as it goes into sleep as you suggest.  In fact, I've pulled it, rebooted, and then put it to sleep.   There are no issues when there is no network cable attached, which makes me assume that it is not an issue with the server's hardware, with the Vista install, or the BIOS.  The BIOS has very few settings for WOL anyway.

I've attached my DSL modem directly to my server just to see if having ANY network device attached causes this wake from S3 issue, but it stayed soundly asleep.

As soon as I connect it to the router, despite nothing else being connected to the router, it starts waking up 30 seconds after being put to sleep.  This router is broadcasting something...  anyone got any ideas what it could be?  As stated earlier, DHCP is off.

Mouse and keyboard wake is disabled in the server's BIOS..  so that rules that out.

Does anyone from D-Link read these forums?
« Last Edit: January 18, 2010, 12:23:26 AM by pookeyhead »
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lizzi555

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Re: DIR-655 waking my server from S3 Sleep
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2010, 01:09:49 AM »

Try disabling UPNP in the advanced network settings of the DIR.
Also disable the "Multicast Streams"

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Cobra

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Re: DIR-655 waking my server from S3 Sleep
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2010, 07:49:11 AM »

Mouse and keyboard wake is disabled in the server's BIOS..  so that rules that out.

That is not always the case.

I have everything in bios related to WOL disabled in bios but until I disabled "allow this device to wake the computer" in device manager/mouse properties my PC would wake up without any interaction.
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pookeyhead

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Re: DIR-655 waking my server from S3 Sleep
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2010, 11:59:43 AM »

Thanks for the replies guys...   greatly appreciated.

I've just got home after a 13 hour shift, so my priorities are:  Food, Jack Daniels, sleep.  In that order.

I'll give them all a go tomorrow and report back :)
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pookeyhead

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Re: DIR-655 waking my server from S3 Sleep
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2010, 12:29:11 AM »

I'm afraid none of the above worked :(

In fact, even if UPNP did work, it stopped Azureus from working, so that wouldn't have been a solution anyway.

Anyone else got any ideas?

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lotacus

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Re: DIR-655 waking my server from S3 Sleep
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2010, 10:09:55 AM »

I think what the problem is, is that it's sending out ARP messages.

There is a hidden setting in the firmware that you can access by pressing alt+v then y then n (view>style>no style)

You are able to disable WOL. Not sure if it will affect the internal network or if it's a WOL passthrough for waking the computer up outside the network.

You can access this configuration at http://dlinkrouter/Advanced/Firewall.shtml

It's a hidden setting under ALG Configuration.

I think someone else had a similar problem about a year ago and was able to solve it by forwarding the port used, to a non-existant IP address. Unless that was you and still was not able to solve the problem.

Unfortunatly I dont' know why it's happening because i have tested the WOL and it worked fine. Did you check any settings within the computers bios?
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pookeyhead

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Re: DIR-655 waking my server from S3 Sleep
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2010, 01:04:54 PM »

Yeah I've been through the BIOS with a fine toothed comb...  but that doesn't mean I didn't miss anything.

If anyone more knowledgeable wishes to take a look, here's a link to the server's motherboard manual.

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/Manual_DownloadFile.aspx?FileType=Manual&FileID=19430

I'll try the other suggestions later.

Once again, thanks for trying to help.

David

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Re: DIR-655 waking my server from S3 Sleep
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2010, 01:17:19 PM »

If you're running Windows 7, try powercfg.exe utility.  It will tell you exactly why the machine woke.  If it is indeed networking, then you will probably want to sniff your network and look for the packet that caused the machine to wake.

In general, any directed packet (unicast directed to the machine itself) will wake the machine.  Something as simple as a ping or ARP could cause it to become an insomniac.

I got so frustrated I just turned off WOL except magic packet.  I just hit the machine with WOL tool if it's snoozing.  I'm sure you and others can figure out the cause here, but it just wasn't worth it to me as I have bigger problems.
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Cobra

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Re: DIR-655 waking my server from S3 Sleep
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2010, 02:08:26 PM »

Did you disable mouse "allow device to wake computer" power management in device manager?

Optical mice sometimes wake PC for no reason.
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pookeyhead

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Re: DIR-655 waking my server from S3 Sleep
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2010, 01:01:58 AM »

Yes I did that...  I've even pulled the mouse entirely.

I've not tested the "hidden" settings yet.  Will do that when I get back from work.
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