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Author Topic: Extremely slow web browsing with bittorrent on  (Read 9380 times)

wing0

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Extremely slow web browsing with bittorrent on
« on: January 26, 2010, 07:22:07 AM »

Hi all,

I have a unit with A4 revision, flashed with 1.22B05(I'd rather use my old setup than going to 1.3x)

Everything seems to be as speedy as my old setup (DI-604 + FON router with DD-WRT)
I set up port forwarding, NO dns relay, QoS set to have BT on priority 250 and manual input of upload speed.
Firewall set to address/port restricted for both UDP/TCP.
WISH, securespot off
Wireless - WPA/AES, 40MHz, G/N mode.

Whenever I try to BT with max 100 connection, my HTTP will pretty much halt.
I've never had this type of problem with a $20 d-link router before.
Of course web browsing will slow down, but it shouldn't take over 2 mins to begin loading a website.

So I thought...let's try something else.
Turned off SPI, QoS. Everything I can think of.
Changed max connections down to 30.
Still the same thing.

I changed back to my old setup and everything is fine again with 100 connections.

What is wrong with this router?  >:( It's over $100 after tax and can't do as much as older gen network equipments out there.
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kthaddock

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Re: Extremely slow web browsing with bittorrent on
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2010, 08:22:22 AM »

That is well-known issue. Use 133b02NA_HNAP_beta that report working vell, read in this forum.

http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=10677.msg63072#msg63072 

If you use N/G-mode you have to set wpa2+aes 40MHz and only ch1 and 11.
It can only fit ONE N-channel uper/lower

kthaddock


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Cobra

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Re: Extremely slow web browsing with bittorrent on
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2010, 10:00:13 AM »

If you use N/G-mode you have to set wpa2+aes 40MHz and only ch1 and 11.
It can only fit ONE N-channel uper/lower

Huh????

I don't have mine set that way and all torrents run just fine plus N has great speed.
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EddieZ

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Re: Extremely slow web browsing with bittorrent on
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2010, 10:35:40 AM »

Quote
Huh?

I don't have mine set that way and all torrents run just fine plus N has great speed.

ditto...
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kthaddock

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Re: Extremely slow web browsing with bittorrent on
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2010, 11:41:08 AM »

Huh????

I don't have mine set that way and all torrents run just fine plus N has great speed.


Yea i know !

Have a look here:
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Wireless-N_Configuration#General_Wireless_N_Information
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wing0

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Re: Extremely slow web browsing with bittorrent on
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2010, 10:04:38 PM »

That is well-known issue. Use 133b02NA_HNAP_beta that report working vell, read in this forum.

http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=10677.msg63072#msg63072 

If you use N/G-mode you have to set wpa2+aes 40MHz and only ch1 and 11.
It can only fit ONE N-channel uper/lower

kthaddoc


I have N/G, WPA2 + AES and set to CH1.
I don't see how this affect the problem I'm having since I've been testing using LAN connection not wireless.

Is there any way to get away from this without going to 1.3x? That's one way road.
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lotacus

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Re: Extremely slow web browsing with bittorrent on
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2010, 12:48:09 AM »

Check to see if you can prioritize ACK packets. Not sure if there is a way with the dlink firmware. Not even sure if it prioritizes it when QoS is set to auto either.
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Cobra

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Re: Extremely slow web browsing with bittorrent on
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2010, 07:14:28 AM »

What is most important is not the number of max connections but what you set your upload speed to.

Whatever your upload is from your ISP set the client to less.

Like after doing a speed test if you have 768kB down then set the client to 640kB. Otherwise you will saturate your connection and speeds will go down.
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wing0

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Re: Extremely slow web browsing with bittorrent on
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2010, 09:15:31 AM »

What is most important is not the number of max connections but what you set your upload speed to.

Whatever your upload is from your ISP set the client to less.

Like after doing a speed test if you have 768kB down then set the client to 640kB. Otherwise you will saturate your connection and speeds will go down.

My maximum upload speed is 60kbyte/s
I set BT to use max of 30kbyte/s. I think that's already good enough. Even if I set it to 5kB/s it's still the same thing.

I do notice that, the firewall seems to be blocking a lot of ACK from the WAN to the system that is BTing. I'm not sure how to fix that part as I shouldn't give the WAN full access to my systems behind the router just to receive those ACK. At the same time, I'm not sure if that's what the router is busy with.

I just find it extremely weird that some people have no troubel having BT running while web browsing yet I'm hitting this roadblock.

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Cobra

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Re: Extremely slow web browsing with bittorrent on
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2010, 09:41:20 AM »

What client are you using?

I use µTorrent and feel it is the best.
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wing0

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Re: Extremely slow web browsing with bittorrent on
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2010, 09:56:08 AM »

What client are you using?

I use µTorrent and feel it is the best.

I'm using µTorrent
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war59312

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Re: Extremely slow web browsing with bittorrent on
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2010, 03:05:11 PM »

What happens if you lower max connections to say 50?

Any difference?

I have mine set to 80, even with my 2 MB/s upload because if I try more than that I too have a similar issue.

Update: n/m I see you tried it with 30 and same problem. Ouch!
« Last Edit: January 27, 2010, 03:08:24 PM by war59312 »
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wing0

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Re: Extremely slow web browsing with bittorrent on
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2010, 09:28:11 PM »

What happens if you lower max connections to say 50?

Any difference?

I have mine set to 80, even with my 2 MB/s upload because if I try more than that I too have a similar issue.

Update: n/m I see you tried it with 30 and same problem. Ouch!

Yah...I tried even 30 and was still having the same type of problem.
i just don't understand how can some low model router can even beat out this thing...How much more money am I supposed to spend to get wireless N, gigabit switch + something that can handle like 50-100 connections?

I bought my grandpa a TP-Link router...it was $30 compared to this $100. That thing has been rock solid when I do BT on it and the slowdown wasn't all that much. He has the same internet package as I do.

This just boggles my mind.
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