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Author Topic: IPv6  (Read 5498 times)

Trikein

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IPv6
« on: July 28, 2010, 06:35:25 PM »

Hmm..well this one hit me out of leftfield, recently I learned that my ISP is slowly going to be transitiong over to IPv6. Its probably going to be like the DTV thing and be beaten into all our brains before it effects us, but I thought it might be a interesting topic of discuss. First..what is IPv6?

IPv6 has a vastly larger address space than IPv4. This results from the use of a 128-bit address, whereas IPv4 uses only 32 bits. The new address space thus supports 2128 (about 3.4×1038) addresses. This expansion provides flexibility in allocating addresses and routing traffic and eliminates the primary need for network address translation (NAT), which gained widespread deployment as an effort to alleviate IPv4 address exhaustion.

Summary: The IP is more complex, so there for theirs more possible combinitions of what IP you can have. Think of it like going from a 4 digit password, all letters, to a 16 digit password, letters and numbers. Since theirs more varibles to the IP, theres a bigger pool to draw your IP from, and there for you have more of them.

The Good:

1.More IP's
2.Possible Private IPs, even for your private(LAN) network.
3.NAT becomes mute, since your computers IP is public.
4.Changes some things, leading to possibly a more secure connection overall.
5.It makes playing multiple counsols on the same modem SOOOO much easier. That is..assuming any game consoles are compatible with IPv6

The Bad:
1.No router currently on the general market, with the exception of 3rd party Firmware and a few Apple products, support IPv6.
2. Uncertainty on the execution. How will this effect DHCP and PPPoE markets.
3. Some say a IPv6 address would be able to be traced more specifically to your computer, rather then your ISP.
4.Last, unless D-link releases a firmware update, no more DGL-4500.
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Re: IPv6
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2010, 06:47:51 PM »

WHAT! NO MORE DGL 4500? Does this mean no more Trickey on the forums? :(
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Re: IPv6
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2010, 06:49:03 PM »

This has been discussed before. I'm sure OEMs will produce something to support IPv6. I also added it to the Requests and bugs post too. This isn't new.
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Trikein

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Re: IPv6
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2010, 07:30:34 PM »

I didn't meant to insinuate it was new, quite the contrary. Its been something thats been in discussion for a long time,  but always as something "in the future". I have come across some info that there will be some changes starting in September for some ISP's. So I wanted to bring the subject up again. Do you think if the modem offers it, and we just turned off the DHCP server in the router, would the computer aquire a IPv6 on it's own? Basically turn the 4500 into a switch?
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Re: IPv6
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2010, 07:32:36 PM »

I could swear I read on another website that this router could support based on the hardware, but no firmware has yet been developed.  The person specifically mentioned how he/she knew this despite it not being in the specs.  Then again, there's probably big business in replacing all this network gear as opposed to a simple upgrade...
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Re: IPv6
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2010, 07:36:20 PM »

It depends on how much will be offered by the ISP. IPv6 is a whole nother ball of wax and until they figure out the protocols and make a standard for everyone and figure out how the UI is going to be and make it easy, it's going to be a while before I presume any of the OEMs really decide to start building routers for end users much less home users. I presume that some of the IPv6 will be enterprise at first the trickle down to us folk. It's interesting to say the least. I hate having to manually configure it though. Its not user friendly, YET.
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Trikein

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Re: IPv6
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2010, 07:58:28 PM »

Well then I will post in a month or two when I have some more solid info. Anyone know how it is implemented over seas? Japan uses it right?  Or atleast a hybrid.
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Re: IPv6
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2010, 08:04:33 PM »

we use it here, it takes a Server class OS like 2003 or 2008 to act as the IPv6 router and DHCP server. I had to set one up for testing at an OEM I was working at a couple of years ago. It works for testing. I couldn't get web to work though.
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