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BruceD

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Router resetting on it's own several times a day.
« on: December 08, 2010, 09:30:47 AM »

I have had the DGL-4500 for about a month now, and not a day goes by that it doesn't reboot itself. In fact most days it reboots multiple times per day. I have Comcast cable using a Linksys cable modem and I can confirm that on each reboot of the DGL-4500...the cable modem is still passing traffic as a connected laptop (I placed a switch between the router and modem as a test) still remains online. The firmware version is 1.23NA. Nothing in the logs tell me what may be going on. I have turned off just about everything I can that I would suspect puts the router through additional processing (workload) and nothing works. Disabling the dynamic defrag seem to help...though this may simply be my perception since I want something to work.

I work from my home during the day and am hard-wired to the router, but it still resets. It seems to be worse during VPN sessions, VIOP calls, or GoToMeeting sessions...I suspect heavy traffic usage. Another heavy traffic example...we cannot watch a full length movie on Netflix wether on a PC (hard-wired or wireless) or a wirelessly connected Xbox without it rebooting. If my family is home and connected via wireless, it reboots at least once an hour (often more), wether I am using any of the hard-wired PC's or not.

I purchased the router from Newegg and the user ratings warned of such issues with the router. I have also found other sites with user complaints about the same issue. When is D-Link going to provide us with a fix to this issue. My previous DGL-4300 ran fine for more than 3 years under the exact same conditions without issue, until lightning took it out. The reboot issue is well documented and a firmware update is obvious, but why haven't we seen one?

A rebooting router is utterly worthless to me and I need an answer or time frame. Otherwise, it is time to throw the router away and make another purchase, presumably not D-Link.
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Re: Router resetting on it's own several times a day.
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2010, 10:02:10 AM »

I can understand your frustrations. There were issues with random resets and hangs in v1.21 and those issues were fixed in v1.22 and remain fixed in v1.23.

Let see if we can help you figure this out.

Lets verify that you have v1.23 please on the Device Status page. Let us know the version. Was this the version that was loaded already?

How often does the 4500 reset?

How are you connecting to the 4500? Wired or wireless?

If you have done any configurations to the 4500, please save off the current configuration to file.

Let's shut down the cable modem and 4500. Turn off and Disconnect all devices accept for one PC that your going to use here. I'd like you to make sure the cable between the modem and 4500 is in good working order. Lets try a different one to be sure. Lets connect a wired PC to the 4500 for now.

Turn on the cable modem. And let it do it's thing.

You an turn on the 4500 log in to the web page and perform the full factory reset under Tools/System/Restore Factory Defaults. Let the 4500 reset.

I'd like for you to run some tests and let us know if you see any issues. We need to see if this is happening with default settings. So don't change any settings right now. Do a Speed check then stream some video to this connected PC.

I'd like you to review the gaming and gamefuel information sticky (not the PlayStation one) for some good info on how to set up the xbox. These are the same settings I use and others use and they work well. Make sure you follow them precisely if you do use them. Lets make sure the 4500 is working well first. I feel there is a configuration issue right now thus might be causing the resets.
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Re: Router resetting on it's own several times a day.
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2010, 10:40:01 AM »

The router came with 1.21NA and rebooted within an hour of plugging it in so I updated the firmware. As I mentioned in the first post...the router now has 1.23NA that is dated 2010/04/15.

I would guess the router resets from 4 to 10 times per day.

During the day, 1 PC hard-wired to the router. Like today, with 2 reboots in the last 4 hours and no wireless connections. Add a wireless connection and it will reboot much more.

The router is running defaults, less one gaming rule for a single Xbox. These settings for the Xbox were taken from this forums sticky on setting up the Xbox.

The ethernet cable between the moden and router has already been replaced. No change.

I have done the factory reset, and started from scratch a few times already, none have remedied the problem.

I also tried another Linksys cable modem...my neighbor has the exact same model, and it has made no difference. I thought it may be the problem. I have reset the router to factory defaults and noted the time. I will post when the time the router reboots while using a single PC wired to the router with no wireless connections.
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Re: Router resetting on it's own several times a day.
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2010, 10:42:08 AM »

Another thing to make sure, just because the cable modem is send some traffic doen't mean it's getting a good signal and transferring bad data to the router. Make sure that splitters on the cable line going to the modem are few to none. None being preferred. You can check the status of your cable modem and the logs for any obvious disconnections by going to 192.168.100.1 I believe for your cable modem as I had one of those up until recently. You should see some logs for the modem. You can call and ask your ISP and talk to a tech and see if they notice any problems or disconnects on the Modems WAN side going to there servers. They can see all on the cable modem. Let us know how it goes.
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Re: Router resetting on it's own several times a day.
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2010, 10:47:49 AM »

Ok, I might shut off the wireless for now if you can do with out for a while. One thing you can do as a test, is can you take the 4500 router to your friends house and test there as well, if the problem travels then we can really say there is something at the 4500 thats not working.

Yes, v1.21 has the reset and hang issue and when you loaded v1.23 it should have resolved it. What HW version is this 4500? A1 or A2? I have A1. Look for this on the botom sticker.

One thing I'd like to try is to load the FW again and see. There is a better way to load and it might help. I've learned that doing a factory reset first, load the FW bin file, then do one final factory reset again after the upgrade ensures the FW is seated and everything is fully set.

Hope we can narrow down the issue for you. I know you'd like to be using it rather than trying to fix it. LOL.

The router came with 1.21NA and rebooted within an hour of plugging it in so I updated the firmware. As I mentioned in the first post...the router now has 1.23NA that is dated 2010/04/15.

I would guess the router resets from 4 to 10 times per day.

During the day, 1 PC hard-wired to the router. Like today, with 2 reboots in the last 4 hours and no wireless connections. Add a wireless connection and it will reboot much more.

The router is running defaults, less one gaming rule for a single Xbox. These settings for the Xbox were taken from this forums sticky on setting up the Xbox.

The ethernet cable between the moden and router has already been replaced. No change.

I have done the factory reset, and started from scratch a few times already, none have remedied the problem.

I also tried another Linksys cable modem...my neighbor has the exact same model, and it has made no difference. I thought it may be the problem. I have reset the router to factory defaults and noted the time. I will post when the time the router reboots while using a single PC wired to the router with no wireless connections.
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Re: Router resetting on it's own several times a day.
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2010, 01:01:04 PM »

Just a quick update. Yesterday after a factory reset...and no other changes to the router it rebooted on me 2 more times and once this morning. First...router was up for about 1.5 hours when it reset during a VOIP call. Only 1 wired PC using the router at that time. About 50 minutes after the disconnected VOIP call, I was connected to a VPN and it reset. However, I got back into the VPN and was in for another 2/2.5 hours and it was fine. I did not reconnect any wireless devices last night.

This morning...again only 1 PC wired to the router...reset after about the first 40 minutes working across a VPN, but has been fine since. More than 4.5 hours on the VPN since the last reset. I also ran a 20 minute Skype video call to my brother and it remained up. So far today...1 reset.

All of today and last night the radio was enabled, but no devices were connected. I will turn off the radio for the rest of the day and see what happens.

The hardware version is A2.
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Re: Router resetting on it's own several times a day.
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2010, 01:10:30 PM »

Thanks for the update. This is interesting that the resets are getting more far appart. Have you configured anything on the 4500 for VPN after the factory or your just using all default settings?

A2...Over the years have seen a bit more issues with A2 vs A1.

Is WISH enabled? If it is, disable it as well. Let us know if you notice anything.

I think the next step after all this would be to do a re load of the v1.23 FW.

If you decide to do this, use the following process:
Do a Factory reset on the 4500 and let it come to ready.
Load the FW .bin file using the routers web page and let it upgrade and come to ready.
Do another Factory reset on the 4500 and let it come to ready.

Test with default settings.

After this, if the router is resetting still, is there a friend you can take this router to and put on his system and test for a bit? If you can and it's doing the same thing there. I would call DLink, tell them the steps taken and get an RMA, if not, then I guess a return to place of purchase is the last resort.

I do hope it works though.
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Re: Router resetting on it's own several times a day.
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2010, 09:12:20 AM »

Ran router with disabled radios on Friday. 2 resets over more than 11 hours of use with 1 wired PC. All resets were while I was on a VPN. I have not modified any settings since the factory reset. I did notice that the router does not keep the date/time settings on each reset.

Enabled radios this morning, and let my kids (2) connect their PC's, it reset in about 25 minutes. And again about an hour later (might have been a little longer). The router obviously has an issue. At no time does the router seem to get hot, for that matter not even warm to the touch. Perhaps it is firmware or even an ASIC, but nevertheless it should not hard reset itself.

Your heading me down the path of a configuration issue, when setting the included configuration options should not cause such an event. I need an answer as to what is being done, if anything, to resolve this well documented issue. If there is no new firmware close to completion, then just let me know. I can move on and throw the router away and make a new purchase.

Please answer the question...are we going to see a new firmware update soon that may help with this issue?
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Re: Router resetting on it's own several times a day.
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2010, 11:55:39 AM »

Ran router with disabled radios on Friday. 2 resets over more than 11 hours of use with 1 wired PC. All resets were while I was on a VPN. I have not modified any settings since the factory reset. I did notice that the router does not keep the date/time settings on each reset.

You say you experienced all resets while on VPN. Does the router reset if your not using VPN? Any chance you can test this router out at a friends network? I know you mentioned changing out the cable modem from your neighbor however I'd like to see if this router would work on his network if possible. On your cable system are there any splitters on the line by chance? Having any splitters on the line will reduce the signal level to the cable modem.

Enabled radios this morning, and let my kids (2) connect their PC's, it reset in about 25 minutes. And again about an hour later (might have been a little longer). The router obviously has an issue. At no time does the router seem to get hot, for that matter not even warm to the touch. Perhaps it is firmware or even an ASIC, but nevertheless it should not hard reset itself.

You could try and reload the FW and see if this might resolve the issue. I would do a factory reset of the router, upload the updated .bin file. Do one more factory reset then test again.

Your heading me down the path of a configuration issue, when setting the included configuration options should not cause such an event. I need an answer as to what is being done, if anything, to resolve this well documented issue. If there is no new firmware close to completion, then just let me know. I can move on and throw the router away and make a new purchase.

Please answer the question...are we going to see a new firmware update soon that may help with this issue?

As for seeing a new build of FW, I don't have this kind of information. I presume that the last build of FW was v1.23. Even though this issue is documented here in the forums, this issue may not be solved by FW as there probably are other factors that are contributing to what you are experiencing. I would recommend that you give a different router a try and if you don't see any issues with that router, then I would call up DLink and tell them all that you have done and see if they can present you with other options. There could be just something wrong with the router which is a HW issue and could be easily remedied by an RMA. Let us know what happens.
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Re: Router resetting on it's own several times a day.
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2010, 09:32:51 AM »

The reset is not specific to a VPN connection. Once my kids were back on their PC's over the weekend it reset 9 times on Sunday. Possibly more...I counted 6...but my kids were on their PC's longer than I was and said it reset 3 more times. Both were connected through a wireless connection while I was doing some gaming...again wired to the device. At one point my wife was also connected through a wireless (3 wireless connections at once) connection, which caused 2 resets in a matter of 10 minutes.

Thank you for your time and effort. But I don't want to waste anymore time, yours or mine, on this matter. I have the answer I need.
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Re: Router resetting on it's own several times a day.
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2010, 09:36:36 AM »

Ok, I wish we could have done more. Hope that you find a better experience with the next router. Let us know what the results are.
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Re: Router resetting on it's own several times a day.
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2011, 03:28:14 PM »

The reset is not specific to a VPN connection. Once my kids were back on their PC's over the weekend it reset 9 times on Sunday. Possibly more...I counted 6...but my kids were on their PC's longer than I was and said it reset 3 more times. Both were connected through a wireless connection while I was doing some gaming...again wired to the device. At one point my wife was also connected through a wireless (3 wireless connections at once) connection, which caused 2 resets in a matter of 10 minutes.

Thank you for your time and effort. But I don't want to waste anymore time, yours or mine, on this matter. I have the answer I need.

Before you give up roll your f/w back to 1.21 then use the f/w available search to roll that back to 1.12 and then try the 1.12-1.16b and see if it behaves any better.  I have an a2 on 1.16b and it does pretty good but my old a1 on 1.21 is a paperweight.  Perhaps one day I will find it, unbox it and roll the fw back.
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Re: Router resetting on it's own several times a day.
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2011, 06:35:03 PM »

My DGL 4500 runs great, I used to have issues but I got a replacement unit. Now it works wonderfully. This is one of the best router I have ever owned in my life. Try getting a replacement return the one you own or call D link if you are still under warranty. I was going to recommend you to Factory Default it but you have already done that. Try and disable all of your logs and see if you get less restarts.

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Re: Router resetting on it's own several times a day.
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2011, 05:05:55 PM »

I've been noticing some sort of restart on my DGL-4500. My laptop will report the wireless connection lost and when I look across the room at the router, I can see that the display on the unit is lit up. Shortly after that the WiFi connection is reestablished.

I've looked at the status and see a "Connection Up Time" that seems to correspond to this. Does this indicate a reboot or some other kind of reset? I looked for an indication of router up time and could not find it.

I have noticed this happening a couple times daily.

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Re: Router resetting on it's own several times a day.
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2011, 06:57:24 PM »

What firmware version is loaded?
What wireless mode are you using?
What hardware version is it? A1 or A2?
What other wireless devices do you have?
Any other wireless routers in the area?
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