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Author Topic: UPS and Printer  (Read 17743 times)

rcblackwell

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UPS and Printer
« on: January 02, 2009, 07:21:37 AM »

I'd like to attach my APC UPS to the DNS323 however I'd like to retain print capability. Can I connect a USB HUB to the DNS323 then connect the printer and UPS to the HUB?

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garyhgaryh

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Re: UPS and Printer
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2009, 03:51:04 AM »

You ever try this? I'm curious if it'll work.
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Re: UPS and Printer
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2009, 08:11:07 AM »

I have connected the printer and UPS with a hub and it prints. This has been working for 2 weeks.  I no longer have the clear print cue box.
I do not know how the dns will respond to the ups . I will try upluging the ups from AC next week and see if it responds to low battery signal. It does show UPS status as 100% and online.
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Re: UPS and Printer
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 08:40:47 AM »

I am curious to know, how did you install the UPS software, or you didn't? is there a special version for the DNS 323?
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garyhgaryh

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Re: UPS and Printer
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2009, 11:04:11 AM »

I have connected the printer and UPS with a hub and it prints. This has been working for 2 weeks.  I no longer have the clear print cue box.
I do not know how the dns will respond to the ups . I will try upluging the ups from AC next week and see if it responds to low battery signal. It does show UPS status as 100% and online.

Do you get the ups and printer UI on the status page?
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fordem

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Re: UPS and Printer
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2009, 11:12:05 AM »

I am curious to know, how did you install the UPS software, or you didn't? is there a special version for the DNS 323?

You don't install any software, the DNS-323 has UPS support (NUT) in the firmware - just plug the UPS in and hope it's  recognized.
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garyhgaryh

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Re: UPS and Printer
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2009, 11:18:13 AM »

I just turned off my nas to put my ups inline (had other reason to turn off the nas - see my bit torrent issues in a recent post) between the nas and the wallsocket.

I am not suppose to plug the ups into another outlet strip, but I did.  Anyone know why? probably due to overloading the strip.

I also plugged in a cheap usb 2.0 hub I bought at target as part of a travel package for electronics for something like $2.50. 

I booted the nas and it recognized the apc ups right away:

Manufacturer:  APC
Product:  USB2.0 HubBack-UPS ES 550 FW:840.B2.D USB FW:B2
Battery Charge:  N/A
Status :  N/A

Not sure why the battery charge and status is NA (not available).  Anyone?

I'll plug a printer into the hub to see what happens later tonight.  Finger's crossed. 
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Re: UPS and Printer
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2009, 11:47:59 AM »

Yeah for the N/A status that may be why its not intended use both device UPS and Printer. It seems it may display weird in the UI as its not designed to work with both simultaneously but if its seems to work OK maybe this can be added in the next firmware so it will display properly.
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fordem

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Re: UPS and Printer
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2009, 12:39:58 PM »

How about you go one step at a time.

UPS directly connected  - does it work? does it show the UPS status correctly
UPS connected through USB hub - does it work? what differences do you see from the direct connect scenario?
UPS + Printer connected through USB hub - etc.

If you do it this way you'll have a better idea of where the problem was introduced.
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garyhgaryh

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Re: UPS and Printer
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 08:42:53 PM »

Yeah for the N/A status that may be why its not intended use both device UPS and Printer. It seems it may display weird in the UI as its not designed to work with both simultaneously but if its seems to work OK maybe this can be added in the next firmware so it will display properly.

I just got home from work tonight and checked the status of the UPS:

Manufacturer:  APC
Product:  USB2.0 HubBack-UPS ES 550 FW:840.B2.D USB FW:B2
Battery Charge:  95 %
Status :  On Line

Mind you I only have the ups plugged in via the hub.  I don't have the printer connected.
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garyhgaryh

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Re: UPS and Printer
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2009, 08:44:20 PM »

How about you go one step at a time.

UPS directly connected  - does it work? does it show the UPS status correctly
UPS connected through USB hub - does it work? what differences do you see from the direct connect scenario?
UPS + Printer connected through USB hub - etc.

If you do it this way you'll have a better idea of where the problem was introduced.


Very methodical and I agree.  Looks like there is no issue... wait until I plug a printer in :)....
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garyhgaryh

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Re: UPS and Printer
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2009, 10:59:43 AM »

Just an update... I just plugged in my new brother ql-570 label printer into my dns-323.  I first plugged it into my laptop to load the drivers.

Brother printer info: http://www.brother-usa.com/LabelPrinter/ModelDetail.aspx?ProductID=QL570&cid=YahooPPC&jkId=8a8ae4cc1be37c9a011be579c0596971&jt=1&jadid=10643134021&js=4&jk=ql-570&jsid=10686&jmt=1&utm_source=YSM&utm_medium=PPC&utm_term=QL_570&utm_content=QL-570&utm_campaign=Model_Campaign

I navigated to the status page and I noticed the UPS status section was still there.  So far so good.
However, I noticed there is no printer section.  A real bummer since, if I remember correctly, you can clear the queue with a press of a button.

I then browsed my nas and clicked on the lp icon and installed my printer driver (I installed it on the laptop first so the drivers will exist when I did this).  I then was able to print labels with no issues.

I did not try out the ups, but I'm assuming it'll work.  I'll try it later (pulling the plug) after I finish downloading my torrents.

So it looks like adding a UPS and a printer to the DNS-323 via a hub will work.  I just need to verify the UPS part by unplugging my UPS and seeing if my NAS will shut down.

The only tweak that's needed is that the GUI should display the printer part in the status page, but I think that is more of a feature request since the original intent was you only have a printer or a UPS hooked up to that port.  Would it be possible to add this "feature" to the next firmware as it does not seem to be a difficult change.

Gary

UPDATE: I just logged into my nas box today and noticed the UPS section has the [clear print queue(s)] button and the "Battery Charge: xx%" and "Status: On-Line" lines are gone... Looks like this:

Manufacturer:  APC
Product:  USB2.0 HubBack-UPS ES 550 FW:840.B2.D USB FW:B2
                    [clear print queue(s)]
« Last Edit: February 24, 2009, 01:47:04 AM by garyhgaryh »
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garyhgaryh

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Re: UPS and Printer
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2009, 11:00:52 AM »

I have connected the printer and UPS with a hub and it prints. This has been working for 2 weeks.  I no longer have the clear print cue box.
I do not know how the dns will respond to the ups . I will try upluging the ups from AC next week and see if it responds to low battery signal. It does show UPS status as 100% and online.

Have you tried unplugging it yet?
Gary
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marrahm

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Re: UPS and Printer
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2009, 01:46:14 PM »

I have a canon printer and a UPS installed and working through an AC powered USB hub.  works just fine and both are recognized and both show up in the printer name box as a weird combined name like "APC Canon UPS i5200"  Important part is that it prints fine and shows the UPS status just fine with no loading of additional drivers or monkeying around with firmware v1.06.  try an AC powered hub if your particular setup isn't working well.
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fordem

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Re: UPS and Printer
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2009, 04:20:28 PM »

I have a canon printer and a UPS installed and working through an AC powered USB hub.  works just fine and both are recognized and both show up in the printer name box as a weird combined name like "APC Canon UPS i5200"  Important part is that it prints fine and shows the UPS status just fine with no loading of additional drivers or monkeying around with firmware v1.06.  try an AC powered hub if your particular setup isn't working well.
mike

So it prints fine, and shows the UPS status fine - BUT - does it shutdown fine?
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