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Author Topic: Looking for recommendations on home network setup - is DIR-855 what I want?  (Read 9527 times)

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Currently have DIR-655 (which has worked flawlessly for over a year?).
Internet connection.
DSL <-> 2-wire Home Portal (not wireless) <-> DIR-655
The 2-wire is basically only functioning as a modem and hardware firewall. The DIR-655 is doing the DHCP and routing. Different subnets for the wired and wireless.

I want to add a 5GHz wlan for a number of HD devices and storage. I want everything to be able to access the internet. I'm thinking of 2 wireless networks. 5GHz wlan for all the HD media content and the existing 2.4GHz for everything else. I also need "remote" connectivity for wired devices in other rooms.

I was thinking (although I may be confused) that I could add a DIR-855 in another room. The DIR-855 would provide the 5GHz wlan and route between the 5GHz network, the 2.4GHz network, and a wired subnet (for the ethernet ports directly connected to the DIR-855). In a 3rd room I would add a DAP-1522 bridging wired devices onto the 5GHz wlan. All the wired devices and anything directly connected to the 5GHz wlan should be able to connect to the internet, routed by the DIR-855, through the 2.4GHz wlan to the DIR-655.

I thought that adding the DIR-855 instead of using it to replace the DIR-655 might give me more flexibility with QOS and routing but I'm getting the impression that may not be true. I think I was reading that the QOS only applies to traffic routed to/from the internet connection and not all traffic being routed through the DIR-855 (like traffic routed between the 5GHz and 2.4GHz networks)?

Any of this make sense? Any recommendations?
« Last Edit: February 14, 2011, 07:18:04 PM by Quick »
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how about checking out a 5Ghz wireless access point for your HD media services to tap off the 655? Have two routers can be a hassle sometimes to manage and configure. Yes you can use the 855 as an AP. However seems like you'd be paying alot just to use it for AP functionality and not using the other features for that kind of cost.

QoS is meant for the LAN to WAN connections to the Internet. IF you connected the 855 to the 655, you would be connected via the LAN ports between the 855 and the 655, you won't be using the WAN connection on the 855 for any of this. Only the 655 would you be able to use QoS.

Since your 655 has been working great. I would have it service the 2.4Ghz network and get youself a 5Ghz AP to service your HD media devices that you can connect to the 655. KISS is recommended.
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That's a bit of a disappointment about the QOS. I was thinking it would be nice to limit/prioritize traffic through the 5GHz network and/or into the 2.4GHz based on target or traffic type. The network topology configuration I can handle. I prefer to do a lot of IP subnets/networks for ease of management. Oh well, not critical.
I was actually thinking of connecting the DIR-655 with the DIR-855 through the 2.4GHz wlan.

The problem with an access point connected to the DIR-655 is location. The DIR-655 and DSL is at one end of the house and everything else will be at the other. I guess I could relocate a bit and get everything within about 30' of each other -- although there will be 3 to 4 walls between. same floor.

Maybe a pair of DAP-1522s? One in AP mode and the other(s) in bridge?
Hmmm, just noticed the DAP-2553. Better? Or overkill. Some seem to be having signal strength/throughput problems with the 1522. Or is that just not an issue with the short distance in my case?

Another potential issue that just came to mind.(with the 5GHz wlan in general). A number of years ago I figured it might be a good idea to isolate my cordless phones from my 2.4GHz wlan... I had to hunt a long time to find the Panasonic KX-TG5110 system (yes, it's 5.8GHz in both directions). What's the risk of interference/degradation on the 5GHz wlan?

Thanks for the info and your thoughts.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2011, 12:17:15 AM by Quick »
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Ya, brings an issue of cordless phones to mind, well you could try the 5Ghz and see. I suppose it might depend on if those phone alway broadcast a signal of sorts or only when in operation.

Just be aware that 5Ghz works best in line of site with out any walls in between the TX and RX devices. I have 2 routers working at AP at 5GHz in bridge mode. Ones next door in the office to my bed room and the other is in the living room 15-20 feet away from the office.

Any chance of installing wire?  ::) LOL
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Ya, brings an issue of cordless phones to mind, well you could try the 5Ghz and see. I suppose it might depend on if those phone alway broadcast a signal of sorts or only when in operation.

Just be aware that 5Ghz works best in line of site with out any walls in between the TX and RX devices. I have 2 routers working at AP at 5GHz in bridge mode. Ones next door in the office to my bed room and the other is in the living room 15-20 feet away from the office.

You could try this and see if you can bridge. I haven't try it yet. Might work for you in short term or long term.
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=37115.0

Any chance of installing wire?  ::) LOL
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Ya, brings an issue of cordless phones to mind, well you could try the 5Ghz and see. I suppose it might depend on if those phone alway broadcast a signal of sorts or only when in operation.

Good point, pretty sure there are no  transmissions unless there is an active call or intercom. They barely get used.

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Just be aware that 5Ghz works best in line of site with out any walls in between the TX and RX devices. I have 2 routers working at AP at 5GHz in bridge mode. Ones next door in the office to my bed room and the other is in the living room 15-20 feet away from the office.

So... any way to quantify that? My cordless phones work wonderfully but I guess that's about 64Kb worst case... It's a 1960's, Silicone Valley tract house. I don't expect there is much in the walls. Let's say 30' and 4 walls. Good chance of degradation or slim chance of degradation. Would it be safer to get something like DAP-2553s right off the bat (I get the impression they are better on signal -- at twice the price)?

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Any chance of installing wire?  ::) LOL

Actually, yes... I have a crawl space under the house. but after the pain of installation there is always the thing with the fixed wall outlets and rearranging the room in the future...
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haha, so what prompted all this is that my 15 yr old tv's gave out so I'm upgrading to HDTVs and HDDVRs and figured it might be time for NAS as well... And Dishnetwork is going to install for free and they're going to have to run some coax anyway.

DXN-221  What do you think of those? It sounds like it would be rock solid but maybe cost prohibitive. Looks like a starter kit for about $180 gets you two boxs, one for each end. I assume a 3rd box would be about $100? and then I'd need a hub/switch for each one. So about $500. 3 1522s would be about $225. 3 2553s would be about $400. ...I think I'm going to want it to work the first time :)
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I would also maybe break down the cost of going wired and see what that might be vs setting up Wireless. I think short term the APs could get you up and running and would be worth trying out to see how they work. I don't have any experience on this as of yet. However I would see what it would take to install wiring. If it means crawling around under or in the attic and making some wall out lets, it's really not that hard.  ::) I go agree, I would want it to work the first time and everytime after that. I recently bought a 1000ft roll of Cat6 for just under $100.
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Funny you should mention that... I just got back from Fry's and bought 100 m of augmented cat6 (and it's in some sort of heavy duty, flexible pvc sheath. It was $90 though. The guy is coming to string my coax tomorrow. I think for a couple more dollars I can get him to pull the cat6 along with it. I couldn't find wall plates I liked so I'll just have everything stick out through a hole in the wall for the time being. Got to look online now for modular wall plates where you can snap in the connectors of choice. 2 coax, 2 RJ45, couple of blanks.

Still might try the 1522's for the time being. Yeesh, I have simple needs and no one makes an ideal solution.
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Check out deepsurplus.com for wall jack mounts. Let us know how it all goes man.
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