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Author Topic: Hard Drive Help - Pleeeaaaase!  (Read 18927 times)

djstrobe4real

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Hard Drive Help - Pleeeaaaase!
« on: April 03, 2011, 03:14:19 PM »
Hi I have just purchased the dlink pulse enclosure as i already have a spare 1tb drive knocking around. Its a WD caviar green, now I am looking for a drive to match it with for a raid 1 config. I am so worried as there to seems to be an advanced format of drives coming into etailers and it is impossible to identify if they have 4k sectors. Can anyone please assist me in selecting a suitable partner for my drive. Obviously I want it to run as smooth as possible from the word go so the 4k avoidance seems my best option. BUT im not sure what this actually does to the Dlink and whether it can be bypassed.

Please Help!
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djstrobe4real

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Re: Hard Drive Help - Pleeeaaaase!
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2011, 08:49:19 AM »
Does anyone know of a link that I can gain more information on this 4K issue and how to avoid it.

thanks
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Pabs

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Re: Hard Drive Help - Pleeeaaaase!
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2011, 12:45:27 PM »
Dude chill!

Look it sounds like this special hard drive you got is causing the issues as you cannot find a matching one. Sell it on ebay and buy two normal drivers. Just make sure they are SATA 7200RPM. here's a link for you: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-211-SE&groupid=1657&catid=1660&subcat=1665.

Just RAID1 those bad boys and get fiddling with your NAS.

Pabs
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neurocid

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Re: Hard Drive Help - Pleeeaaaase!
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2011, 01:38:30 PM »
Problem to buy 2 new (non 4k) drives now is that if i buy for example two Westen digital EADS (old sector size) instead of two EARS (4k) drives is that when one of them break down in future how can i replace it when "all" drives are 4k. Manufacturers are already deprecating 512 models.
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djstrobe4real

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Re: Hard Drive Help - Pleeeaaaase!
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2011, 01:48:45 PM »
Quote from: neurocid on April 04, 2011, 01:38:30 PM
Problem to buy 2 new (non 4k) drives now is that if i buy for example two Westen digital EADS (old sector size) instead of two EARS (4k) drives is that when one of them break down in future how can i replace it when "all" drives are 4k. Manufacturers are already deprecating 512 models.

Right now that has really thrown fuel on the fire! Now it seems that unless Dlink sort the firmware out then the NAS could be unuseable in a few years. Lets cut this down now, do i need to avoid the 4K sector hard drives or not, what drives are you using?
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D-Link Multimedia

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Re: Hard Drive Help - Pleeeaaaase!
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2011, 02:10:41 PM »
DNS-320 fully supports 4K drives. You are not required to buy a 512byte drive.
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djstrobe4real

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Re: Hard Drive Help - Pleeeaaaase!
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2011, 02:39:54 PM »
Quote from: D-Link Multimedia on April 04, 2011, 02:10:41 PM
DNS-320 fully supports 4K drives. You are not required to buy a 512byte drive.


In your opinion Sir, what is the best drive to purchase for this unit? looking for a 2TB drive
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D-Link Multimedia

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Re: Hard Drive Help - Pleeeaaaase!
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2011, 02:49:19 PM »
Best meaning what? Cheapest? Quietest? Least amount of heat? Best varies for each persons environment. I have no issue with the WD green drives. They are quiet and keep heat levels low.
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djstrobe4real

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Re: Hard Drive Help - Pleeeaaaase!
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2011, 03:21:00 PM »
Quote from: D-Link Multimedia on April 04, 2011, 02:49:19 PM
Best meaning what? Cheapest? Quietest? Least amount of heat? Best varies for each persons environment. I have no issue with the WD green drives. They are quiet and keep heat levels low.

Ok thank you for your response, please see this thread which is what led to my confusion: http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=23234.0.

I am looking at this hard drive please can you give me your opinions of compatibility with the 320: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/182435

Or

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/183971

Please assist, and thank you so much for your help kind sir!!!
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D-Link Multimedia

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Re: Hard Drive Help - Pleeeaaaase!
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2011, 04:52:49 PM »
EARS models are fine.


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neurocid

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Re: Hard Drive Help - Pleeeaaaase!
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2011, 01:23:46 PM »
Quote from: D-Link Multimedia on April 04, 2011, 02:10:41 PM
DNS-320 fully supports 4K drives. You are not required to buy a 512byte drive.


Just to make sure one more time. It will align partitions on format for 4k barriers? What firmware version is needed?
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D-Link Multimedia

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Re: Hard Drive Help - Pleeeaaaase!
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2011, 02:17:41 PM »
Default firmware for US is 2.00. As far as I know 1.00 also formats drives by default as 4K however 2.00 for sure.
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albert

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Re: Hard Drive Help - Pleeeaaaase!
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2011, 06:30:18 AM »
Quote from: D-Link Multimedia on April 07, 2011, 02:17:41 PM
Default firmware for US is 2.00. As far as I know 1.00 also formats drives by default as 4K however 2.00 for sure.

Formatting and partition alignment are two different thing.
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neurocid

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Re: Hard Drive Help - Pleeeaaaase!
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2011, 11:09:34 AM »
Quote from: albert on April 08, 2011, 06:30:18 AM
Formatting and partition alignment are two different thing.

And thats why Im still trying to get proper answer. Will dns-320 with latest fw format 4k HDD and get partitions aligned with 4k divided sector count.

Dont want to invest new unit that will suffer performance hit because of misalignment. What does "full support" mean?

Ps. sorry for asking this over and over again....
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D-Link Multimedia

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Re: Hard Drive Help - Pleeeaaaase!
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2011, 11:39:49 AM »
Yes, the NAS will align the drives as 4K when formatting.
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