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[LookIntoMyEyees]

This is a Gigabit router not a Gigabyte router. (This is where I made my mistake)

Remember (1GB) 1024MB (Megabyte) is Binary and (1GB) 1000MB (Megabyte) is Decimal. We will be working at Binary level on this, because that is the full capacity and not rounded.

First and for most, I have done a really huge mistake on all my other post. The Dgl - 4500 does in fact transfer 1Gbps on all 4 Lan and (1) Wan port. But how fast is 1Gbps if you are transferring a 10GB file? Well lets convert 1Gbps into Megabytes, which is 128MBps and means that you would be getting a transfer speed of 128MBps on all 4 Lan Port so if you go at Full duplex you will get (62.5MBps Up /62.5MBps Down) Remember those are Megabytes not megabits. So the total time it would take for a 10GB file to transfer at a 62.5 MB/s connection would be 2m 44s. Also this same mistake was passed onto my PlayStation sticky and must be corrected. All this time I was getting my conversion wrong. I apologize to everyone for my mistake.

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Chris
LookIntoMyEyees

[Hard Harry]

Don't have to appologise for mistakes. LOL. This is a good discussion though. I thought the question before was "Why doesn't the DGL transfer LAN to LAN at 1Gbps." I knew you meant Gb even if you said GB. Here it sounds like the question "How fast can you transfer LAN to LAN" which is much more interesting. My questions:

1. What kind of hard drives do you have at each end?
2. What kind of transfer rates do you get internally hard drive to hard drive?
3. Is your NIC intergrated or PCI?
4. What are the advanced settings of each NIC?
5. What are you using to transfer the files? Explorer?
6. What is the file? What format?
7. What OS do you have on each PC?

[LookIntoMyEyees]

Well thats were things get more complicated, most hard drive average about 60ish write speed, there are higher ends and you can also do a raid set up etc. I also remember reading that if you set up NIC via PCI  it does not even give you full speed because PCI is not fast enough. But that was a huge mistake on my part confusing it, I think majority of users don't really know this and this is a really important concept that needs to be known. A apology was necessary, I probably confused users. But yes I still think most users don't know this information.

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Chris

[Hard Harry]

I agree, most don't. And most brand are happy to let you assume it means 1GBps as they write it on bright stickers that they put on their boxes. About the NIC, that gets complicated. If its running on PCI, its running on a PCI bus, and depending on your board, it may bottle neck it. Say if you have a PCI-E 16x running on the same buss? The normal 133MB bottle neck can drop to 40-50Mb.

Like anything, the best way to find out what your max transfer rate is to isolate the bottle neck. First transfer a 1GB file from one folder to another folder in the same directory. This will test your OS.  Then From a different folder tree to another (say my documents to program files). Then transfer it from 1 partition to another partition on the same drive (that will test the HD). Then from 1 HD to another HD (that will check the bus). Then from a HD on 1 bus to 1 on another bus (assuming you have say a chip for SATA 3Gb and one for SATA 6Gb). And then keep going. PC to PC via patch cable. Then through a switch or router. Alot of this can be skipped, but you get my point.

[LookIntoMyEyees]

It puzzles me knowing that I screwed up Gigabit and gigabyte etc. But I think that was pretty hard to figure out, thank god I noticed sooner than latter. Hey Hard Harry, I was thinking if D link adds IPv6 to the 4500 don't you think it will make the router start processing a bigger amount of data and thus slowing it down? Probably the main reason they removed it, I don' think this router is capable of handling logs, security, many internet session at once etc and still maintain a smooth performance on the network, what do you think? Also soon we will change to IPv6, what going to happened to those who can't? I know they will be just fine, but I am one of those who would like to change

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Chris

[Hard Harry]

Don't worry about IPv6. The IPv4 addresses aren't going to be going away, they will be around for a long time. Companies paid big bucks for their blocks. They will use them until they are absolutely useless. And when they do start pushing over to IPv6, its going to be like the DTV switch. Your going to hear so much about it, and new hardware will be pushed in your face, that you will be sick of it. I think the change will probably hit static IP that are used temp, like for hotel, airports, business VPN's, etc. Which will free up large amounts of iP blocks, which companies will sell to reimburse for some of their infrastructural. The real crazy changes will be with DNS.

[LookIntoMyEyees]

Well some DNS are able to handle both IPv4/IPv6, I know I shouldn't worry about it, wait theres enough IPv6 ID to give everyone in the world a static ISP IP address? IDK I am tired of getting old IP from people who mistreat them and than I get spam'ed by P2p software etc. Not that it even happens a lot (just saying)

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Chris

[Hard Harry]

Oh yea! Way more then enough for everyone. I think its 300+undecillion. Yes, undecillion is a number. Here let me look it up:  340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 IP addresses. Compared IPv4 4,000,000,000 (excluding a lot of the privates and multicast).The problem I see is with PTR DNS records and how they will interact with AAAA records since no system in place is designed implement the new standards in relationship to each other.

[LookIntoMyEyees]

We are talking about static IP addresses for everyone in the world? But who does the ISP pay to get IPs?

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Chris

[Hard Harry]

Depends on the ISP. I think most in the US obtain them from the IANA. I do not think the IANA charges for them, or any large amount, but then again I could be very wrong. That is done well above my paygrade. :-) I do know they are sold though. Microsoft recently paid Nortel (RIP) 7.5 million for Nortel's 600,000 public IP's.

And yea, once ISP's start using IPv6 more and more (were talking 5-10years from now) its really going to change on home networking in general. Atleast the mechanics. The adverage consumer probably won't notice much of a change. But the way NAT, firewall, port forwarding, and all that fun stuff will work will change. Nevermind VPNs and proxies.

[LookIntoMyEyees]

ISP are rather buying new equipments etc rather than just upgrade there software etc. I was read, that. Its crazy how the world will agree on this, and not have any IP overlap each other. Well hope DGl 4500 gets IPv6 support, probably not just waiting for the next gen I guess. But yea Harry your main router is a 4500? Wonders what happened to "FurryNutz" Anyways happy late mothers day.

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Chris

[FurryNutz]

We can only hope the 4500 might get IPv6 support however reading and researching the current status of global support, I feel it's going to be a while before end users like use see major changes from ISPs and OEMS. The WWW back bone has to be fitted for it, then all the ISPS have to get fitted. SW and hardware developers have to get there act together. I know there are some ISPs doing it now and some routers have it now. I honestly don't think end users will see full on support or global support for several years to come. Ya were supposed to be running out of IPs however thats only at the ISP and WWW level. IPv4 will be around for years to come or until the WWW and ISP fully integrate v6 and everyone gives up on v4.

[Hard Harry]

We can only hope the 4500 might get IPv6 support however reading and researching the current status of global support, I feel it's going to be a while before end users like use see major changes from ISPs and OEMS. The WWW back bone has to be fitted for it, then all the ISPS have to get fitted. SW and hardware developers have to get there act together. I know there are some ISPs doing it now and some routers have it now. I honestly don't think end users will see full on support or global support for several years to come. Ya were supposed to be running out of IPs however thats only at the ISP and WWW level. IPv4 will be around for years to come or until the WWW and ISP fully integrate v6 and everyone gives up on v4.

Yea, think DVD's. Technology had to wage the war between DVD-HD and BR for a while and then it took time for BR to get its foundation strong. Even now most stores carry 80% DVD and 20% BR at best and most, if not all, BR are backwards compatible. DNS is going to be like that. Right now the everyone is still decided what stardard to go with, and all their choices are linked. Carriers, Content providers, site hosting, DNS providers, ISP's, OEM, software designers. No one wants to make a move that will cost money until they know everyone else is making a similar move. This will cause the progression to come in big chunks, and then once a system has been agreed to be default, it will be a couple months of small trickles of changes. Only then will you start to hear about in a big way on the customer facing side. And even then static ISP will probably just switch some of the static to DHCP unless you pay extra. And with DHCP, you can just decrease the lease times and be fine for years with what we have, so I wouldn't be worried.

[FurryNutz]

Had to let others know in some of the other router forums on here. My we have some impatient people out there. 

[LookIntoMyEyees]

Well I am looking forward to IPv6 world day, even though I won't participate, Br won of course, Xbox wanted HD DVD to replace DVD, Sony wanted Bluray to replace DVD, guess who won the format war? Sony. You guys remember that all the hype they had etc. OMG I hated those days, thank god bluray won, now they can even do 100GB in a bluray. Sony is now investing on some type of disk format that allows up to 500GB+ idk what the name, anyways rather save this for the off topic thread....

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Chris