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Author Topic: Networking issues w/WIN XP, WIN 7 (64 bit), MAC OS X 10.7 (Lion)  (Read 19889 times)

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I am having some issues, and I can't figure out how to solve them.
I have several computers on my home network.
1.  MAC Pro Tower Running OS X 10.7
2.  Dell Laptop w/internal Wireless connector, running WIN 7, 64 bit
3 Two (2)  HP Desktops w/integrated wireless connectors, running WIN 7, 64 bit
4.  Dell Desktop w/d-Link wireless "N" card, running WIN XP
5.  Dell laptop w/dLink "N" wireless card, running WIN XP
I am also running the dLink Print server w/2 HP laser jet printers
I am also using Network Magic on all of the PC's, and Network Magic Add-on for the MAC
Here's my problem:
1.  My MAC only sees my internet connection, my router and my tower (MACPro).  It can print successfully to both of the networked printers.  It cannot see any of the computers (PC's) in the network, even though they are all turned on.
2.  My PC's can see all of the computers on the network, including MACPro, but I cannot get any of them to print through the Print Server.
My print server is PS-4AA440, and the two printers are connected to PS-4AA440-P1, and PS-4aa440-P2.  I am not using the "U" connection on the print server.
I am assuming that I am doing something wrong, because the d-Link system has always been very user friendly.  I am trying to get my MAC to see the rest of the computers on the network, and I am also trying to get my PC's to print on both of the printers on the Print Server.
Needless to say any suggestions and/or direction to correct this problem is greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
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Re: Networking issues w/WIN XP, WIN 7 (64 bit), MAC OS X 10.7 (Lion)
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2011, 04:15:24 PM »

I recommend not using Network Magic. It's really not needed.

Ensure DNS IP addresses are being filled in under Setup/Internet/Manual?
Turn off QoS options.
Turn off Advanced DNS Services if you have this option.
Turn on DNS Relay under Setup/Networking.
Setup DHCP reserved IP addresses for all devices on the router.
Ensure devices are set to auto obtain an IP address.
Set Firewall settings to Endpoint Independent for TCP and UDP.
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Re: Networking issues w/WIN XP, WIN 7 (64 bit), MAC OS X 10.7 (Lion)
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2011, 04:31:58 PM »

OMG.
Thank you.
Now I have to figure out how to do this.  Is this all done in router set up.  Does it affect the Print Server.
Does it matter if I don't have d-Link adapters in all of the computers?  My MAC is hardwired to the DIR-655.
Should I delete Network magic from all of the computers and then start this?  Sorry to sound so ignorant, but I am.  Is there a tutorial to do this?  I really do appreciate your response, but I am concerned that I might mess up.
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Re: Networking issues w/WIN XP, WIN 7 (64 bit), MAC OS X 10.7 (Lion)
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2011, 04:34:44 PM »

I would remove network magic first from all and then start.
I have my mac book pro wired and wireless.
I haven't tried OSX 10.7 yet. I'm getting it though.
HW shouldn't matter. Just got to make sure the IP addresses are set up on the router.

I recommend turning off all devices before you start accept for one PC connected to the router.
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Re: Networking issues w/WIN XP, WIN 7 (64 bit), MAC OS X 10.7 (Lion)
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2011, 05:27:29 PM »

Sorry to sound so incompetent, but I am.  Should I light off all of the computers and then remove Network Magic from them, one at a time and then shut them down?  I have 6 computers (1 MAC Pro Tower hardwired to the router, 3 PC's, all wireless, 2 of them running WIN 7 and one running WIN XP, and 2 laptops, one running XP and one running 7).  I am also using a DP300U print server, do I have to do anything special with that?  A lot of my stuff has been around for a while, will I still be able to use my disks (or will I even need them)?
I only have my MAC running wired, is there an advantage to running both wired and wireless?
I did run my network for a long time without NM, but got it when it was offered for free.
Again, thank you for your direction and patience.
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Re: Networking issues w/WIN XP, WIN 7 (64 bit), MAC OS X 10.7 (Lion)
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2011, 06:22:01 PM »

yes, remove the network magic from all PCs then turn them off and go to one PC. Set it up for reserved IP addressing on the router. Once you have one PC done, turn the next one on and do the same on the router. Turn the Print server on lastly and give it an IP address on the router as well.
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Re: Networking issues w/WIN XP, WIN 7 (64 bit), MAC OS X 10.7 (Lion)
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2011, 10:54:16 PM »

Thank you.  Will try to do this on the weekend.  Again, I really appreciate your assistance.
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Re: Networking issues w/WIN XP, WIN 7 (64 bit), MAC OS X 10.7 (Lion)
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2011, 11:19:10 PM »

Yes, I agree. Network magic is baaaad. Total bloatware.
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Re: Networking issues w/WIN XP, WIN 7 (64 bit), MAC OS X 10.7 (Lion)
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2011, 07:55:47 AM »

Keep us posted, if you get in to something that your unsure about ask questions and will help out. If need be, someone can teamviewer.com in with you can help you get the router setup with you.
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Re: Networking issues w/WIN XP, WIN 7 (64 bit), MAC OS X 10.7 (Lion)
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2011, 10:49:05 AM »

HOORAY!!!
Thank you so much.  I got rid of NM and now have my wired computer (MAC) working off of the DIR-655, as well as my new laptop running WIN 7.  The next thing I need to do is to get these two computers, along with some of the others if need be, to recognize my DP-300U d-Link print server that has two different printers on it.  I have the Print Server directly wired into the DIR-655 (which I think is PS- 4AA440), and the two printers are on ports PS-4AA440-P1 and PS-4AA440-P2.  Right now the print server is connected to the DIR-655, and the two printers are connected to the Print server.  I have not turned the power on to the print server.  Can you possibly bear with me for a bit more and tell me how to get my MAC (hard wired) and my Laptop (wireless) to connect to these printers through the Print Server?
Again, thank you very much.
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Re: Networking issues w/WIN XP, WIN 7 (64 bit), MAC OS X 10.7 (Lion)
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2011, 01:04:43 PM »

 I am able to get my MAC to print through the Print Server to both printers, and I can get my one laptop running WIN XP SP3 to do the same.  I cannot get my computers running WIN 7 to do so.  Am I missing something really basic here?
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Re: Networking issues w/WIN XP, WIN 7 (64 bit), MAC OS X 10.7 (Lion)
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2011, 01:20:13 PM »

Check to make sure that Firewall settings in Windows 7 is open to connections for the print server or Turn it off temp to test it out. Turn off any 3rd party Av or firewall programs while your setting up the printer server and printer to be sure.

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Re: Networking issues w/WIN XP, WIN 7 (64 bit), MAC OS X 10.7 (Lion)
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2011, 03:21:50 PM »

Thank you.  After deleting Network Magic, I have noticed that the network is faster.  I went to install the printers, and found that I had a bunch of ports that I know that I added in my quest to get my WIN 7 laptop to print, and now I think I need to get rid of them, but can't figure out how to do that.
I have determined that the ip address for the print server is 192.168.0.10, but haven't been able to determine the ip for the printers that are attached to the server.  The two ports are called PS-4AA440-P1 and PS-4AA440-P2 (they have parallel connectors).  The printers are hooked up to those ports, but I'm not sure how I can access their pi's.  This basically, I think, may be my final problem getting these things to print.  Hopefully when I can get rid of all the ports that I created (TCP/IP) ports and I can find the ip's of the two printers, I will be in business.  Does this sound like a plan?
Again, thank you for all your help, I really appreciate it.
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2011, 04:46:14 PM »

To delete the ports that are not needed, you need to make sure that a different port is already selected and in use. Once you do this, go into properties/ports tab and right click on the port you want to delete to highlight it. Then select delete. I should remove it.

You might want to contact the maker of the print server to see how it's set up. I presume that you should use the IP of the print server then some how you might need a setting or software setting to tell it to use what ever the printer port is connected too on the print server.
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Re: Networking issues w/WIN XP, WIN 7 (64 bit), MAC OS X 10.7 (Lion)
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2011, 05:06:54 PM »

You have probably forgotten more than I will ever know about this set up.  I really do appreciate your help and patience.  One of the problems might be the print server I am using.  It is the dLink DP-300U, which is 6 months past its end of service.  I have been able to get the ip of the print server (192.168.0.10), but, beyond that, I have not been able to get the ip's of either of the two parallel printers that I have hooked up.  One of the printers is a HP 1200 PS and the other is a HP 1300 PCL.  The ports for the printers are PS-4AA440-P1 and PS-4AA440-P2.  When I use the ip for the server, I can only get one of the printers to work, the one attached to the P1 port, regardless of which printer it is.  This is all happening under WIN 7.  The MAC has no problem printing to either printer as it reads both of them.  Since there is no support for the DP-300U I'm not sure where I can go.  I would really like to be able to select both printers simply because there are times when more than one person is printing.
Again, I really thank you for all you've done.  I think I'm getting closer, but still have that gap to frustrate me.
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