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Author Topic: Why Shareport?  (Read 21153 times)

gdbr

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Why Shareport?
« on: February 05, 2009, 05:37:02 PM »

I keep wondering why Shareport was implemented the way it was. Ok, that USB port is pretty useless just for WCN, but why the need of a Shareport Utility? Better, why not include an implementation of a standard file sharing protocol like SMB/CIF — a FTP server, ANYTHING for the sake of portability! —, so, at least, Mac and Linux users (and Windows users too) could take advantage of this feature without worrying about an extra software.

I wonder if there's a limitation of some sort. Why couldn't it be simplier? Just simplier.
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Sammydad1

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Re: Why Shareport?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2009, 09:06:24 PM »

Hi,

Just my opinion, but I think it comes down to market share.  Mac and Linux are still fringe for the majority of people.

When trying to create opportunity to make money, you start with your biggest market potential (usually).  At least I would.  Once you are established, then you can expand into your fringe markets.

again, just my opinion.


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EddieZ

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Re: Why Shareport?
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2009, 05:45:16 AM »

Because the hardware in the 655 was not designed for that feature (don't reply with a remark that they should have...)

Whether the use of USB was designed/planned to be more than WCN (they might have thought of it later on...) or not, it requires a whole different hardware setup/chipset (more memory, other processor). So in your opinion that solution is more simple, it does change quite a lot on the design and function (and price!). This is a primarily router. Or do you also complain when driving a BMW 118 that they should have made it more like a BMW 5-series?  ???
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Lycan

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Re: Why Shareport?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2009, 08:37:37 AM »

It wasn't included in the kernel for the IPOS. (Ubicom OS). We're toying with the idea of adding it in the next kernel update. No promises.

Shareport allowed us to work around that as a patch.

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LocutusX

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Re: Why Shareport?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2009, 08:54:06 PM »

Because the hardware in the 655 was not designed for that feature (don't reply with a remark that they should have...)

Err... based on Lycan's response above, you appear to be quite wrong.

Just wondering, since you don't appear to be a D-Link employee, are you just making stuff up and posting on the forums?  ???

No offense. :)
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tipstir

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Re: Why Shareport?
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2009, 11:21:49 PM »

Hey whatever its doing it sure works just to get Wireless to USB2.0 printers over the net is great... I've added 4-port USB2.0 I was able to connect USB thumbdrive (not shown) and two HP color printers and one HP MFP all-in-one. Does work and I don't need to all full drivers.. I can still scan, resize and print and use less memory on the rigs then with the HP full bloat TSR *.DLLs..





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EddieZ

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Re: Why Shareport?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2009, 02:33:47 AM »

Err... based on Lycan's response above, you appear to be quite wrong.

Just wondering, since you don't appear to be a D-Link employee, are you just making stuff up and posting on the forums?  ???

No offense. :)


You got me there. You're completely right, I'm making stuff up. Even when solving people's issues I just make 'm believe they're solved.
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lizzi555

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Re: Why Shareport?
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2009, 09:02:40 AM »

I think Eddie is not so far away from the truth.
The DIR series is designed to be a router.

An additional print server needs additional memory to handle print jobs and causes processor load.
NAS functionality needs a lot of processor resources -> just see the performance of a 500MHz NAS as the DNS-323. DIR-655 has a 275MHz processor only. What performance do you expect ?

What will happen with your bit torrent when streaming a video from a device connected to the DIR or printing to a connected color laser ? Don't be disappointed if the performance will decrease.

Also the shareport is more versatile. Most printservers can't handle multi function devices or standalone scanners.
Shareport can...
And most of the work has to be done by the computers connected.
As the DIR-655 is a SOHO router, I think it is no real disadvantage that only one can use the connected device at a time.

My suggestion to D-Link would be to enhance compatibility of the shareport and optimize performance and the handling of the devices.

And please don't forget the MAC users on the long run ;D
(Though they should have known it before ... )


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davevt31

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Re: Why Shareport?
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2009, 09:09:24 AM »

Err... based on Lycan's response above, you appear to be quite wrong.

Just wondering, since you don't appear to be a D-Link employee, are you just making stuff up and posting on the forums?  ???

No offense. :)


You will have to excuse EddieZ, he suffers from Compulsive Posting Disorder  ;D
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EddieZ

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Re: Why Shareport?
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2009, 09:17:07 AM »

Thanks lizzi555

Look at comparable machines that do offer more extended functionality (by design). They often have a faster processor and more RAM. Don't forget it's these two (esp. the RAM, Asus also uses 275 Mhz processors but don't know the difference between that one an the Dlink one) need to process all (extra) transactions. And I do not believe manufacturers mass produce machines with immense overhead on capacity/power. Even when the extended functionality in incorporated, you probably will not be too happy with the performance: it was designed to be router that excels at wireless N capability and Gigabit WAN.
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Re: Why Shareport?
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2009, 08:54:18 PM »

Can't really say the CPU is to blame as DIR-615 A1 hardware had 500MHz Marvel WNPU 32MB of RAM. That would blow away the DIR-655. DIR-615 C1 400MHz 32MB of RAM again you think that would blow away the DIR-655. Again numbers don't add up the DIR-655 can handle wireless, video streaming, downloading with 200 connections connected for torrents. I've done all of that I had DIR-615 A1 it was quicker covered the house better, but had short comings the hardware wasn't fully supported, then came out DIR-615 B1 there goes downhill.

Sharepoint for what it's worth does work very well. I use SMB also with that you all networked wired or wireless systems can access that at the same time. Sharepoint the same except you have to share and wait then release the device on the USB. SMB device you don't have to do that.

Still the average home not going to have everyone printing at the same time like a business who prints more than 10,000 print jobs a month. So share point idea works very well. Sure there are limites, but hey you got MFP you can use it with share point, you got a WD Passport TB you can use it with share point at the same time!
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Re: Why Shareport?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2009, 02:58:30 AM »

You will have to excuse EddieZ, he suffers from Compulsive Posting Disorder  ;D

I feel the desperate need to disagree here....  ;)
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Re: Why Shareport?
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2009, 08:25:38 AM »

Actually Eddie was quite CORRECT. The reason it's not currently implemented is because the hardware wasn't designed with samba in mind. If we add it, it would be a software patch and probably not preform as well as a hardware solution that was designed with samba in mind.
That being said, I've been told that the samba idea was scrapped because of poor support and low throughput.
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EddieZ

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Re: Why Shareport?
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2009, 09:56:44 AM »

I should play the lottery according to some  ;D
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Re: Why Shareport?
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2009, 06:10:24 PM »

Despite all the bad comments on DIR-655...I brought it because it has the shareport feature. I am now able share my printer with scan function by all PCs in my house. My next plan is to have the USB external harddisk shared as a dedicated backup for all data in all PCs...Shareport really help, simpify a lot, and provide a great flexibility.
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