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Author Topic: DNS-323 Access through router AND switch  (Read 11100 times)

SkipDiver

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DNS-323 Access through router AND switch
« on: February 06, 2012, 01:13:35 PM »

I have a DNS-323 that I have been using for a long time now. I have since wired my house up for wired internet and have two switches linked from one computer to the router, where the DNS-323 is directly linked. I have Windows XP on all computers and since I have added the switches, I have not been able to access the DNS-323 at all. It can read it, it asks for my username and password under My Computer when I double click on it, I type the information and it just locks up my computer for 5 minutes then an error occurs stating its no longer on the network. I go to my other computer that is wired to the router directly and log RIGHT into the DNS-323 just fine both through folders and through the config page that I have setup with Static IP. WHAT is going on? ANy suggestions as to what the deal is? It used to work fine till I ran access through a gigabit switch. ANY help would be greatly appreciated.
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Wiggs

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Re: DNS-323 Access through router AND switch
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 08:27:31 AM »

Your description of you network setup is confusing.  What does this mean?
have two switches linked from one computer to the router, where the DNS-323 is directly linked.

What is the DNS-323 linked to?  The router or the switch.  What is the reason for two (2) switches?  Is the DNS-323 set to DHCP?


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Wiggs
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ivan

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Re: DNS-323 Access through router AND switch
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 01:20:44 PM »

Like Wiggs, I am at a loss when trying to visualise your network setup.

Here we have1 router and 4 switches that connect to 4 NAS boxes, 3 WiFi access points and 17 fixed computers.

The switches are in different sections of the building and feed 1 NAS and the computers in each section.  Three of these switches are connected by cat6 cable to the fourth at the server rack.  Those three also have a WiFi points connected.  The router is connected to the switch at the server.

This all works without any problems and allows access to all the DNS-323 and DNS-320 from any computer or WiFi laptop in the building.

Somehow you have connected your DNS-323 in such a way that it is on a dead branch of your network.  You need to draw your network on paper to see how the interconnects are, in fact, connected.
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fordem

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Re: DNS-323 Access through router AND switch
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2012, 04:12:01 PM »

Replace all cables connected to the gigabit switch with KNOWN GOOD CAT6 cables.
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SkipDiver

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Re: DNS-323 Access through router AND switch
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2012, 07:26:55 PM »

Thank you for everyones reply's.

I have the DNS connected directly to the router so its the closest thing to an internet connection. I then have a CAT6 cable off the wire to a switch in the laundry room where I have incoming bedroom connections coming into as well as one CAT6 cable going to another switch in my office which has 4 computers in it. I JUST realized what the issue was. I was thinking why the wireless would access it, but not my wired. So, I went into the firewall of the wireless and looked at the settings and then the 2 wired connection settings (P5W DH - Dual ethernet) and copied the information over. The "advanced settings" sections for my wired connections (Local Area and Local Area 2) were 100% blank in the services department. So incoming connections and other "services" were turned off. I was actively BLOCKING myself from the DNS this way. It was a fluke that I decided to look there before I went back to this post. So.....IF THIS EVER COMES ABOUT AGAIN...I guess I know where to look.
All of my other computers were automatically setup to accept this connection type in the firewall, store bought or customized build. This latest computer I built; however, was not setup automatically for that, which blows my mind.
I appreciate the responses and am going to use this forum again for my DNS-323 questions, as with this piece of Hardware, there are a lot of frustrations I am sure you have all gone through. Like why scandisk never works, and why there is SUCH a slow bandwidth transfer rate even with gigabit and CAT6.
Thanks again!!! :-D
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fordem

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Re: DNS-323 Access through router AND switch
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2012, 08:03:50 AM »

why there is SUCH a slow bandwidth transfer rate even with gigabit and CAT6.

Let's describe it as an incorrect expectation.

Many people expect a gigabit connection to be able to transfer data at - well - gigabit speeds, and fail to recognize that anything over hundred megabit speeds can be defined as gigabit speeds.

On a personal note, my network experience dates back to coax networks, and probably includes some museum pieces that you may never have heard of (ARCNet, twinax to name a few), folks like me who grew with the technology would have used 10 mbps coax networks on which 33% traffic was considered an overload.

Networks became a consumer technology when the internet became popular, and a 100mbit network could move data at 98 mbps or thereabouts, but in it's infancy, even 100mbit networks couldn't handle much more than the 33% mentioned earlier.

Enough history - your DNS-323 has the processing power to deliver around 400mbps to it's ethernet port, but when you start to add disk transfers and other housekeeping chores to the workload of the "flea" power CPU, it chokes, and the best you'll see is maybe 280mbps or therabouts, and that my friend is well over 100mbps and into the realm of gigabit speeds.

If you really want or need to see 800+ mbps storage, you can get it, but it's going to cost you a lot more than you paid for the DNS-323.

When you purchased, you opted for low cost, low power consumption, and probably did not recognize that low performance was a part of the bundle - EVEN THOUGH - the read/write speeds are stated on the outside of the box.

Mine chugs along, on a gigabit network, and I would guess averages less than 20~30 mbps on transfers, but it fills the need it was purchased for, acting as a backup storage device for my critical data.
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SkipDiver

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Re: DNS-323 Access through router AND switch
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2012, 10:17:36 PM »

WOW....of course...why would it hold up.
Ok...if I disable the wired connection and use the wireless one, I can access the DNS with the firewall on.
If I enable the wired and use that to access the DNS now with the firewall on, I can't. If I turn off the firewall, then it works. What setting is it that is making it so I can't access it with the Windows firewall on that would be different from the WiFi way? I can't figure this out...
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fordem

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Re: DNS-323 Access through router AND switch
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2012, 07:19:14 AM »

It's Windows' related - call Microsoft or your computer manufacturer's tech support - oh wait - that's you.

Aaaah - what version of Windows?  If it's Win7 set the network to home or work, anything other than public and see if that fixes it.
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Re: DNS-323 Access through router AND switch
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2012, 09:51:51 PM »

I have Windows XP Professional 32bit Service Pack 3
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fordem

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Re: DNS-323 Access through router AND switch
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2012, 04:27:04 AM »

Old school XP - I'm getting a little rusty on that - you may need to specifically allow file & print through the firewall, or set the network as "trusted" - I'm on a 7 Pro system right now, so I can't tell you exactly where or what - I'll look them up for you this evening.
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fordem

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Re: DNS-323 Access through router AND switch
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2012, 10:02:35 AM »

Look at the exceptions tab of the firewall - make sure file & print sharing is checked.
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Re: DNS-323 Access through router AND switch
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2012, 11:21:51 AM »

I looked at the exceptions list and File and Print Sharing are indeed checked. My confusion is that, why did it work wirelessly through the motherboard, but now that it is connected "wired" it doesn't. That is strange to me.
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fordem

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Re: DNS-323 Access through router AND switch
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2012, 05:53:27 AM »

The wired & wireless firewall settings are different - wireless defaults to a more secure setting - again, I'm on a Win7 system so I can't look it up - I run XP on a my netbook, and 7 Pro on my desktop so when I'm at work it's Win 7.
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SkipDiver

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Re: DNS-323 Access through router AND switch
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2012, 10:22:56 PM »

Does anyone else have any idea's that have run Windows XP or still do?....since it's still the widest used operating system...
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Re: DNS-323 Access through router AND switch
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2012, 04:17:58 AM »

Are the IP addresses on the wired and wireless NICs in the same subnet?
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