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Author Topic: Configuration to Restrict Bandwidth for my Xbox  (Read 19986 times)

Mickking06

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Configuration to Restrict Bandwidth for my Xbox
« on: December 05, 2012, 12:22:10 PM »

First all, i know people will ask why would you want to lag on xbox live? Well for those playing BO2..lag compensation is a curse for us who have high connection speeds. There is a way to solve it which is by simply..making your connection slower to reduce the compensation the game applies to you. From the many forums i have read there are 2 ways via router
1. QoS delay
2. MTU setting reduced

My question is how can i achieve this using either method? I have followed the Qos guide located on this forum which sets up the xbox to run with the most bandwidth but i in a way want to do the opposite. Also i found the MTU setting but i have to do the manual internet connection setup to have access to it. I'm using dynamic DHCP(finds open IP). I have my current ips for my xbox and pc reserved so they will not change. My xbox i know is static and i'll double check my pc to make sure when i get home. I never got supplied an IP from my ISP so a guide on the manual setup to gain access to the MTU setting would be sweet. If anyone knows what settings i need to set/change to simply reduce my bandwidth given to my xbox please post!!! Tired of dieing behind corners and all the other horrid bs kills that we all so hate!


Edit: I also have wireless turned on N and G bands only..if this matters at all, my pc and xbox are both wired.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2012, 12:48:04 PM by Mickking06 »
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Re: Configuration to Restrict Bandwidth for my Xbox
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2012, 01:03:03 PM »

DLink routers don't have any way of limiting band width, more over they just ensure everyone gets good Quality connections and services through the router.

The lag your seeing comes from other users, there networks, there ISPs and there router set ups. Not everyone had good quality routers and most users are not using the advanced features on the routers to help there network and others to gain better connections. Other users are trying to game over wireless and if thats not set up right and along with other devices using that same wireless connection, you can only imaging what the router and wifi is trying to do an maintain connections.

I can understand to a point that what your trying to do is to compensate for some of the lag. I don't think it's possible here. We've tried to maintain that setting up these routers, ISP modems and networking to gain the best possible connections between user devices and the ISP. That basically all we can do here.

By trying to compensate for your experiences in gaming by trying to compensate fro the lag, could have other ramifications and work against you and others playing. I do also see many issues with BO2 and other games as well as others on this forum using other model routers. We've gone thru all the settings and made sure everyone is running well between the devices and the ISP modems. Yes we still see junk while playing.  >:( It's not something that we can easily fix by changing MTU or QoS values. DLink routers don't have any such band width limiting features as I think DLink believes more in QoS features in there engines and they do work well when set up well.

You could try setting the priority of GameFuel to a low setting maybe however I  don't think this would result in anything since it depends on other devices being online and running Gamefule rule. If your the only one onlne gaming then the router gives you all it can anyways. Having 2 or more boxes online at the same time, now thats different.

Try setting the MTU value differently however again, this could effect how the router communicates with ISP modem down the road. Most cable systems use a default value of 1500, while DSL uses anything from 1492-1472 down to 1300 sometimes.

More Info here for lag compensation:
CoD - This is Lag Compensation Explained

I think you need to make sure that your ISP services, ISP signal lines, ISP modem and your DGL-4500 are set up well for the best connection you can get. Ensure T.V. line splitters are removed from cable systems if possible, if one is needed, use a GOOD Quality splitter. Dedicated cable internet line is preferred though. For DSL, ensure phone lines are in good working condition and filtered correctly. Seen a few users with ISP not connecting the lines correctly or marketing giving users DSL services well beyond line distance limits that should not be exceeded. Run all new wires if need be for Cable or Phone. Use CAT 6 LAN cabling on all of your wired devices. Use of newer model ISP modems and stand alone modems, ones with out built in routers is highly preferred. If this can be achieved then you'll know that your system is running right and should be able to handle anything. Just be aware that all of the other junk you see while gaming, probably coming from other users and there systems that are not set up well and realistically can't be fixed.

Maybe someone can review your router settings with you using Link> teamviewer if your interested. Its safe and secure.

Good Luck.
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Re: Configuration to Restrict Bandwidth for my Xbox
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2012, 03:06:37 PM »

Amazing reply first off, and my worries of going all out on my connection is that with the way lag compensation works...the better my connection is the more compensation i get from the game thus it only gets worse? I could be wrong as i do not know the full mechanics behind this crazy idea to solve "lag". I'm currently attempting to use torrent to slow my connection but i still download to fast so its annoying having to find items to download to keep my connection slowed haha. The priority settings for the qos i believe do not have an effect for me because only my xbox, tv, and pc are on my network which when im on BO2...its the only thing using the bandwidth thus priority is useless. Guess i'll just grit my teeth and hope their engineers will wake up and fix this failed idea that should of never been implemented until it was actually ready for live play....

If anyone does happen to find a solution or other ideas let me know!

Note: What about 3rd party networking software that allows me to externally change the MTU setting? I wouldnt mind lowering it while i play and then having to adjust it again when im done but i have seen where this is an option.
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Re: Configuration to Restrict Bandwidth for my Xbox
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012, 03:17:12 PM »

Ya, I think BO2 and the services they use and everyone else is having impact on gaming in BO2. I was playing with MW2/3 And Halo games and saw normal problems there and lag sometimes. However not as bad as BO2. Seen people get disconnected from my group while waiting to enter into a game, crazy update messages and everything else. I don't think they anticipated the gathering of people who bought the game. I do like the game, I hope maybe that they will fix what ever it is and come out with a patch.

I don't think there is any SW for networking to adjust the MTU. You can test it out on the 4500 to see if it does anything.

I recommend that you don't try to slow your connection while playing. I think your causing more problems then helping. Specially if you get into a party where maybe everyone has a good connection, your causing more problems then solving it and probably causing your party to also experience bad gaming. I would not want to play with you man.  ::)

It's not your fault about the LAG. It been around for a while now. Many issues and many things cause it. Take the higher road and make sure your system is running at its best. Don't try to cause problems.

We all see the lag, not much we can do. If your really concerned about it, I would contact BO2 makers and voice your problems. The more they know the more they are apt to take action.

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Re: Configuration to Restrict Bandwidth for my Xbox
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2012, 03:19:17 PM »

What region are you located?

What ISP Service do you have? Cable or DSL?
What ISP Modem make and model do you have?

DGL-4500 Gaming and Gamefuel for XBL
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Re: Configuration to Restrict Bandwidth for my Xbox
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2012, 04:23:05 PM »

whats up Furry and Mickking, some things I have tried and had great success with,

1. when you first go into the playlist selection screen, you can choose search preferences, you can choose BEST instead of NORMAL, which is the default setting.

2. i went to GAMING and set one rule for ports 1-65535 for my console ip address.

since i did these things i have consistent 4 bars and my hit detection seems to b alot better

im not sure if gamefuel opens ports or not, i believe it jus gives them priority, but i am using 1.15 firmware and it is suppose to have a UPNP issue, so i tried portforwarding, can you elaborate further Furry,

im using this on my ps3, but i also have an xbox, but i have yet to try any games on it, since ive made the changes, but i think ill have to make another Gaming rule for xbox and disable the one for ps3

also Furry, wat are your thoughts on Cat 7, it seems to b workin well for me

Sorry if yall already now about this stuff, jus tryn to hekp
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Re: Configuration to Restrict Bandwidth for my Xbox
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2012, 07:44:11 AM »

If cat 7 is working for ya, thats awesome man. Enjoy.
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Re: Configuration to Restrict Bandwidth for my Xbox
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2012, 01:15:17 PM »

Mickking,

You make me laugh as I to was fooled into thinking the solution for lag comp was to slow your internet down was the answer!  Too many *****s on those COD forums, just saying....

I will tell you right now MW3 was the worse for me, not bad but not as good as BOPS or BOPS II.  So learn from my experiences slowing your bandwidth, downloading/uploading torrents, MTU, yada yada will NOT help you with the lag comp.  I know I tried, lol.

Anyway this is how you find your correct MTU setting:
http://www.dslreports.com/faq/695

Once you know it, log into your router: basic>internet>manual configure, enter the MTU setting there and click save.  don't worry about anything else, it should already be filled in.

Do me a favor and maybe yourself:
Set up or game fuel to exactly this, just enter your correct IP address for home PC and Xbox. Don't forget to save before you leave the screen and then reboot when all completed!



https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=F181E4F48FF153F1!188&authkey=!ABJYLfhyfudvCX0

If you only have one Xbox, in your router settings set up port forwarding.  Advanced>gaming and then select "Xbox live" in the application pulldown box, this will auto populate the correct ports, then enter your Xbox IP in the "IP address" box.  Click  add then save settings. Note: this is only if you use one Xbox, if use two or more, using port triggering, see below.

For two more Xbox's you will want to use port triggering, in your router settings, advanced>special applications, add these ports 3074 (both) and port 88 UDP, it should look like this when you are done.



Also turn off all logs under status>logs.  If you really don't want to do this then just leave firewall&security and critical checked.


Try these settings out for a few days and report back please, good luck!
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Re: Configuration to Restrict Bandwidth for my Xbox
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2012, 01:22:38 PM »

Bad MW3 huh? We had a hell of a time doing BO2 last nite XS. Some "error modifying session" keep appearing. You have see that?

I'm going to try the PF settings you use since I'm  the only one with an xbox. Been testing this 856L out of the box. pretty nice. Been playing on wifi with xbox. Does good I think for gaming. Still, wired is the best.
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Re: Configuration to Restrict Bandwidth for my Xbox
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2012, 01:59:28 PM »

Yeah MW3 was 50/50 for me and very rarely I would get that "great" connection where you feel you're ahead of everyone else.  I still liked it but man every few games I would be on the very bad end of lag compensation where I literally could not kill anyone, that was the deal breaker for me.  In Bops 1&2 I very rarely have that bad of connection.

Never seen that error on any COD title, was this in a public match or private match with your buddies?
Keep in mind I have been playing Bops II mostly solo however if I do have connections issues sometimes the whole party needs to back out to the main screen and log back into multi-player.

To be honest the only thing I noticed since using PF or port triggering in my case is that I would get that awesome connection where you feel unstoppable more frequently not much but heck I'll take that god like connection anytime! ;D
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Re: Configuration to Restrict Bandwidth for my Xbox
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2012, 02:11:06 PM »

Only see with with play with buddlies like you. Had a hard time last nite..had to play hardcore mostly for a while as it was the only game that didn't exhibit it.

Ya, considering only using PF for the 3074 port for single xbox uses now. Not big need for QoS if the xbox is the only thing online while gaming. Mine usually is.  ;D So thinking that PF should be good for me.
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Re: Configuration to Restrict Bandwidth for my Xbox
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2012, 09:25:21 AM »

Sounds like it started happening after the last update, probably need another update or hot fix to address it!
http://community.activision.com/message/413605101
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Re: Configuration to Restrict Bandwidth for my Xbox
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2012, 09:53:50 AM »

Awesome info, ya played last nite. Had a hell of a time getting into games. I even trying using PF. Wouldn't help. Also NAT was moderate using PF. SO i turned on QoS and seem to clear that up.
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Re: Configuration to Restrict Bandwidth for my Xbox
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2012, 01:26:54 PM »

That's crazy, the main purpose of PF is so people can connect to you with no hang ups, lol.  Did you forward both port 3074 (UDP/TCP) and port 88 UDP?
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Re: Configuration to Restrict Bandwidth for my Xbox
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2012, 01:32:11 PM »

Only did 3074...Is 88 really needed?
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