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Author Topic: 1.31 Offical Release  (Read 94463 times)

EddieZ

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Re: 1.31 Offical Release
« Reply #90 on: May 03, 2009, 02:44:41 PM »

@teknomedic; Go and write a nice friendly email to Dlink tech department if they want to share these tech details with you (to which you're not entitled by default, just in case this argument might come up). If you want to have a "but what if you ... (go and change the old firmware with the new bootstrap etc)..." discussion with them be my guest.

Ubicom has released a new kernel (improvements???) which has been implemented by Dlink. It's just the way it is.

@ominator: you're close...

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teknomedic

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Re: 1.31 Offical Release
« Reply #91 on: May 04, 2009, 03:24:51 AM »

EddieZ... from what you've posted you seem to be claiming to know the "true" reason so why not share it with us, or have you signed some form of NDA recently?
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teknomedic

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Re: 1.31 Offical Release
« Reply #92 on: May 04, 2009, 03:35:26 AM »

I guess with this new version they performed a full flash instead of a code flash, and flashed the bootstrap with a new version.

More then likely the old firmware flashers don't recognize the new bootstrap and refuse to flash it, or the old code does not work with the new strap.

That's the point I'm trying to make.  If that's the case then I (as well as others it would seem) would much prefer D-Link to simply say that instead of some PR "bull".
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EddieZ

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Re: 1.31 Offical Release
« Reply #93 on: May 04, 2009, 03:40:49 AM »

EddieZ... from what you've posted you seem to be claiming to know the "true" reason so why not share it with us, or have you signed some form of NDA recently?

The things I've shared is all I know, I'm really not that into coding and stuff so I do not know the tech details of that kernel upgrade. But as far as I can trust my sources this is the actual reason for the downgrade limitation. This is what happens when the marketing dpt has control  :o
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teknomedic

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Re: 1.31 Offical Release
« Reply #94 on: May 04, 2009, 03:49:47 AM »

Fair enough... I'm not that into coding either, but from what I've learned by programming/flashing many chips and hardware from my little EEPROM programmer as well as what I know about hardware in general it seems that D-Link was simply spouting some "PR fluff".
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EddieZ

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Re: 1.31 Offical Release
« Reply #95 on: May 04, 2009, 04:18:58 AM »

Fair enough... I'm not that into coding either, but from what I've learned by programming/flashing many chips and hardware from my little EEPROM programmer as well as what I know about hardware in general it seems that D-Link was simply spouting some "PR fluff".


Indeed a bad call.
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kurtisnet

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Re: 1.31 Offical Release
« Reply #96 on: May 04, 2009, 05:09:23 AM »

Is it just me or why can't I find the 1.31 Firmware on DLink Website anymore?
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mackworth

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Re: 1.31 Offical Release
« Reply #97 on: May 04, 2009, 05:34:32 AM »

Is it just me or why can't I find the 1.31 Firmware on DLink Website anymore?

Yeah, I don't see it.  Has it gotten take down again?  Seriously dlink?

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NVM,

If you got to this address it doesn't show it.

http://www.dlink.com/products/support.asp?pid=530&sec=0#firmware

However, this one does:

http://support.dlink.com/products/view.asp?productid=DIR-655
« Last Edit: May 04, 2009, 07:01:25 AM by mackworth »
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Lycan

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Re: 1.31 Offical Release
« Reply #98 on: May 04, 2009, 08:30:53 AM »

The unit comes with 2 types of on board storage. 16MB Flash RAM for system settings and configs as well as the statetable, and an EPRom of unspecified size. Obviously the EPRom is where the code known as the OS for the unit (IPoS to be exact), is kept.

When the kernel to the OS is updated a section of the EProm is changed. This is WRITE memory that is non-volatile. My guess is UBicom felt there was a significant enough change in the SDK that allowing downgrades from this new SDK could possibly damage or destabilize the unit. Normal firmware upgrade allows for the "addition" or DELTA of the firmwares to be applied. The CODEBASE is not re-written. When the SDK goes through a upgrade, the entire EPRom is re-written.

This isn't the first time we've done this, I believe this is the 3rd for this router. The 4500 also saw an upgrade like this (although that was a tragedy).

Moving on......if you believe that the firmware is causing your unit to fail, contact technical support, request that they assist you with your issue, and if not resolved request a replacement unit. You can even go as far as to request a unit with 1.21 if you like.

I'll close in saying this. There is nothing currently wrong with the 1.31 firmware from a preformance standpoint. There as some small java problems with the code that effect the UI, mostly involving some quirks with captcha.
I do not doubt for a second that upgrading the firmware on your router may ave caused it to malfunction or operate poorly, however please understand that it is not the code's fault. It IS however a combination of that code, your router and your environment. The unfortunate side is because the codebase is locked, you're extremely limited on what you can try as far as troubleshooting.
I appologize to all the 655 owners that are suffering with a unit that is not performing up to par.
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sandman

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Re: 1.31 Offical Release
« Reply #99 on: May 04, 2009, 10:22:39 AM »

Thank you Lycan - personally I really appreciate, not only the information, but also the honesty in your reply.
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teknomedic

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Re: 1.31 Offical Release
« Reply #100 on: May 04, 2009, 10:38:38 AM »

As do I Lycan.
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kurtisnet

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Re: 1.31 Offical Release
« Reply #101 on: May 04, 2009, 09:17:56 PM »

Yeah, I don't see it.  Has it gotten take down again?  Seriously dlink?

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NVM,

If you got to this address it doesn't show it.

http://www.dlink.com/products/support.asp?pid=530&sec=0#firmware

However, this one does:

http://support.dlink.com/products/view.asp?productid=DIR-655

Yea, I went to follow the links on www.dlink.com. Haha, still not sure if I should make a move to the new one or not yet lol.  ;)
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Lycan

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Re: 1.31 Offical Release
« Reply #102 on: May 05, 2009, 08:16:18 AM »

Firmwares are downloaded from support.dlink.com
I'll check in to the links provided at dlink.com.
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lotacus

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Re: 1.31 Offical Release
« Reply #103 on: May 05, 2009, 09:43:00 AM »

speaking of firmware download and stuff alike, the A2 here in canada, has never ever reported new firmware version since 1.10. Don't know what that is all about but I guess it doesn't work in Canada? Never reported it before, well once actually, only because it's not a big deal. :P Since I havn't made a post in a little while I thought to write this. anywayyys. tootaloo.
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Lycan

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Re: 1.31 Offical Release
« Reply #104 on: May 05, 2009, 09:50:33 AM »

NA = North America, I'm guessing according to D-Link's view Canada is part of NA. ANNEX TIME! lol j/k.
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