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Author Topic: 1.31 - Cannot use pool.ntp.org as NTP server.  (Read 19591 times)

Tsumeone

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1.31 - Cannot use pool.ntp.org as NTP server.
« on: May 02, 2009, 02:44:32 AM »

Bug that was introduced in 1.22 is STILL here.

Namely, I cannot set pool.ntp.org as my time server any more.  I could do this up thru 1.21 but 1.22 and newer have a bug with this where as soon as I hit "Save" on the page with pool.ntp.org as the time server, the router starts reboot looping until I use the physical reset button to restore the factory defaults.

Trivial bug, but it needs to work as designed or not allow you to type your own NTP server.
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EddieZ

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Re: 1.31 - Cannot use pool.ntp.org as NTP server.
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2009, 08:46:35 AM »

I got my own NTP server inserted: no problem. You are aware that you need to set the servers like this: 0.pool.ntp.org or 1.pool.ntp.org or 2.pool.ntp.org and you cannot insert pool.ntp.org (see the pool.ntp.org manual) ? I tried all three and router did not crash.

« Last Edit: May 02, 2009, 08:48:57 AM by EddieZ »
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Re: 1.31 - Cannot use pool.ntp.org as NTP server.
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2009, 11:02:06 AM »

I just installed 1.31 on my router, and honestly, it's HORRIBLE!

I was using 1.21 before, with little to no issues, once I updated, I too am having this issue.

I WAS VERY SUCCESSFULLY using: north-america.pool.ntp.org

Since the instructions were to SAVE a copy of the Router configuration file, then flash with 1.31, THEN reset to DEFAULTS, THEN restore using saved configuration file -- I did just that. 

HOWEVER, because I was using north-america.pool.ntp.org very happily before, no issues, and that was part of my saved configuration file, now because of this BUG, I have to go back and manually setup all of my fields, otherwise endless router reboots.
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Re: 1.31 - Cannot use pool.ntp.org as NTP server.
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2009, 12:03:23 PM »

Sorry to here gericb, ...but do you have any friends with this router? Spread the word about the forum. It appears D-Link is using this forum to gauge whether or not v1.31 is actually a solid firmware update. It would also appear based on replies in this forum that D-Link believes far too many routers are on the market with not enough problem posts here in the forum to warrant researching and or resolving this v1.31 firmware debacle.

So, the more people that post about this problem, the more likely the chance for an update that will either resolve it, or an update that will unlock the downgrade option so you can get back on v1.21.

Respectfully,

Tommy Lee
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EddieZ

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Re: 1.31 - Cannot use pool.ntp.org as NTP server.
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2009, 12:43:43 PM »

Sorry to here gericb, ...but do you have any friends with this router? Spread the word about the forum. It appears D-Link is using this forum to gauge whether or not v1.31 is actually a solid firmware update. It would also appear based on replies in this forum that D-Link believes far too many routers are on the market with not enough problem posts here in the forum to warrant researching and or resolving this v1.31 firmware debacle.

So, the more people that post about this problem, the more likely the chance for an update that will either resolve it, or an update that will unlock the downgrade option so you can get back on v1.21.

Respectfully,

Tommy Lee


His issue is with the restoration of the saved config file. I do not agree to the 'easy' qualification that the firmware is no good. It's works perfectly fine over here, even the ntp issue is not an issue in my router and  therefore cannot be called an issue, let alone a generic issue. It takes more than 10 peeps complaining about something that could just as well have an external cause. It's too easy to point immediately at the firmware. Too many so called 'firmware issues' have passed around here that were caused by external factors.
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Tsumeone

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Re: 1.31 - Cannot use pool.ntp.org as NTP server.
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2009, 01:17:11 PM »

I got my own NTP server inserted: no problem. You are aware that you need to set the servers like this: 0.pool.ntp.org or 1.pool.ntp.org or 2.pool.ntp.org and you cannot insert pool.ntp.org (see the pool.ntp.org manual) ? I tried all three and router did not crash.



http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/use.html

Looks like I can use pool.ntp.org - and I've been using it in all my PCs as their time server without issue.  The x.pool.ntp.org is optional.

I would like you to try putting pool.ntp.org in and see what happens.  I'm not saying that I won't use the 0.pool.ntp.org now that I know that works, but I am saying D-Link needs to fix the problem that causes the router to boot-loop with a time server it doesn't like.

NOTHING should cause the router to infinite reboot.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2009, 01:27:05 PM by Tsumeone »
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Re: 1.31 - Cannot use pool.ntp.org as NTP server.
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2009, 02:10:54 PM »

Sorry to here gericb, ...but do you have any friends with this router? Spread the word about the forum. It appears D-Link is using this forum to gauge whether or not v1.31 is actually a solid firmware update. It would also appear based on replies in this forum that D-Link believes far too many routers are on the market with not enough problem posts here in the forum to warrant researching and or resolving this v1.31 firmware debacle.

So, the more people that post about this problem, the more likely the chance for an update that will either resolve it, or an update that will unlock the downgrade option so you can get back on v1.21.

Respectfully,

Tommy Lee


Well, I have started to post and hopefully many others do the same. I am getting disappointed with the dir-655, as it seems Dlink is more interested in adding non router features to it then improving the routing features.

For example, Securespot is a feature that does not belong in a router. Parental controls do not belong in a router either.

What does need improvement does not seem to get improved. A good example of an improvement would be to lower the amount of reboots required when making setup changes. Is it really required to perform a full router reboot when changing the MAC address? Is it really required to perform a full router reboot when adding a rule to the forward rules?
I know routers from other companies do not require reboots under those 2 circumstances...
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Re: 1.31 - Cannot use pool.ntp.org as NTP server.
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2009, 02:57:30 PM »

For example, Securespot is a feature that does not belong in a router. Parental controls do not belong in a router either.
Well, it seems 'the market' thinks differently. Remember these are consumer routers and 90% of current PC users really don't have a clue what 'security' is for their network.
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What does need improvement does not seem to get improved. A good example of an improvement would be to lower the amount of reboots required when making setup changes. Is it really required to perform a full router reboot when changing the MAC address? Is it really required to perform a full router reboot when adding a rule to the forward rules?
Reboots have been added to ensure that setup changes will be saved and executed correctly. You can delay a reboot until you have implemeted all changes and only have one reboot...So the number of required reboots is actually just....1!
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Re: 1.31 - Cannot use pool.ntp.org as NTP server.
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2009, 03:04:01 PM »

It's a pest. A bit of topic, but these days it becomes increasingly harder to find what you need without all the extra fluff. It's so hard to just find a virus scanner these days...
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EddieZ

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Re: 1.31 - Cannot use pool.ntp.org as NTP server.
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2009, 03:13:57 PM »

Incorporating the feature into a router makes some sense: No software buying, installing or mind boggling configuration which forces you to educate otherwise your internet access will be blocked by the program or the AV doesn't block anything... And I don't blame them. As experts we tend to expect that everybody grasps the details of this technological machine and willingly dive into the "How Things Work" stuff. They don't , just like I do not have a clue how to fix a color TV. I just want to watch movies on that screen... :P

Taking that away from the 90% that just want to use a computer program is a blessing for internet security. Using routers (the gateway to the bad world) and subscriptions is easy for consumers, good for manufacturers and safe for the internet community.
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Re: 1.31 - Cannot use pool.ntp.org as NTP server.
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2009, 06:13:49 PM »

BTW, I just ran into this.  Very Annoying!

For the record, I used 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org and my router started to get in a rebooting loop...
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EddieZ

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Re: 1.31 - Cannot use pool.ntp.org as NTP server.
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2009, 04:34:12 PM »

Just enter another ntp server...they all give the same time you know...this is a problem that is not really a problem
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mackworth

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Re: 1.31 - Cannot use pool.ntp.org as NTP server.
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2009, 07:56:01 PM »

Except that I had just set up QoS, WISH, DHCP Reservations, etc for 6 people, the only thing I do to get it stop rebooting was reset it.

And you said to use another ntp server...   which I did, instead of using pool.ntp.org I used 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org...  Should I try another one only to have it happen again? 

Talk about regression testing...  Do you do any dlink?
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EddieZ

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Re: 1.31 - Cannot use pool.ntp.org as NTP server.
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2009, 02:43:54 AM »

Except that I had just set up QoS, WISH, DHCP Reservations, etc for 6 people, the only thing I do to get it stop rebooting was reset it.

And you said to use another ntp server...   which I did, instead of using pool.ntp.org I used 0.north-america.pool.ntp.org...  Should I try another one only to have it happen again? 

Talk about regression testing...  Do you do any dlink?

The list of NTP servers is endless...whether you get one from Asia, Europe or the Northpole...they all give the same time. Even the default Dlink ones :D

By the way, I tried your NTP in my router: no issue whatsoever...
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mackworth

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Re: 1.31 - Cannot use pool.ntp.org as NTP server.
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2009, 10:56:00 AM »

The list of NTP servers is endless...whether you get one from Asia, Europe or the Northpole...they all give the same time. Even the default Dlink ones :D

By the way, I tried your NTP in my router: no issue whatsoever...

There must be some set of options that when configured cause this problem.  I tried that address twice with the same results and all the other settings the same.
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