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Greyhawk68

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Weird Behavior
« on: December 09, 2013, 05:23:02 PM »

Hello everyone,

Been lurking awhile, and currently I'm on the beta 1.11B3 software and I have some weirdness that I don't know if anyone else is seeing.

First, I don't use the WiFi at all.  I simply use this as a gateway and I use two Apple Airport Extreme AC units as access points.  So I'm interested in the fastest speeds over the gigabit network as possible.

What I'm running into is this.  No matter whether it's my MacBook Pro connected through the Airport Extreme, or the iMac plugged directly into the 5500 I see the same thing.  Pings are around 85ms and I get a couple MB down and upstream seems fine (close to 10MB)

Now, if I use a speedtest on my iPhone 5S which is connected to the Airport Extreme through the WiFi I get my normal 15ms ping, 50+MB down and 10MB up.  So the phone and the MacBook Pro are connected through the same Airport Extreme which is hardwired to the network and runs through the 5500.  MBPro gets crappy speeds (despite connecting on AC even) and the iPhone gets blazing speeds.

Anyone have any idea why that would be?  Every Mac in the house consistently is getting 85ms ping, about 1.5 down and close to 10MB up.  The phone and iPad blaze away.

I never had any issues like this through the previous gaming router, so I'm hoping it's a simple fix or a future firmware fixes it up.

-Grey
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Re: Weird Behavior
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2013, 05:58:49 PM »

Heres what I'm seeing with my MBP using OSX 10.9 wired to a DIR-868L in bridge mode connected to the 5Ghz radio on the DGL-5500:
PING yahoo.com (206.190.36.45): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 206.190.36.45: icmp_seq=0 ttl=51 time=24.071 ms
64 bytes from 206.190.36.45: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=24.988 ms
64 bytes from 206.190.36.45: icmp_seq=2 ttl=51 time=23.170 ms
64 bytes from 206.190.36.45: icmp_seq=3 ttl=51 time=23.849 ms
64 bytes from 206.190.36.45: icmp_seq=4 ttl=51 time=30.910 ms
64 bytes from 206.190.36.45: icmp_seq=5 ttl=51 time=58.138 ms
64 bytes from 206.190.36.45: icmp_seq=6 ttl=51 time=23.253 ms
64 bytes from 206.190.36.45: icmp_seq=7 ttl=51 time=22.260 ms
64 bytes from 206.190.36.45: icmp_seq=8 ttl=51 time=23.566 ms
64 bytes from 206.190.36.45: icmp_seq=9 ttl=51 time=30.554 ms

What is the distances between the router, APs and client?
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Greyhawk68

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Re: Weird Behavior
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2013, 12:02:51 PM »

This isn't WiFi interference at all.  This happens whether I am wired directly to the 5500 with my iMac (i7 32GB RAM) or connected through the AirPort Extreme with my MBPro. 

The weirdness is, either laptop or desktop exhibit the same 85ms ping through speedtest.net and only a couple MB down.

If I use my iPhone 5S which is connected to the same AirPort Extreme as the laptop, and I use speedtest.net, I get about 15ms ping and around 57MB down.

So this is discrepancy is happening even with a machine plugged directly into the router.

The iphone goes through the AirPort Extreme, which is connected to a switch, that goes about 50 feet to another switch that goes then another 20 feet to the 5500.

So for the life of me I cannot figure out why the iPhone would test out so fast, yet an iMac directly connected would not.

I'll keep tweaking and see what I can find, but I'm about ready to just try another brand.  Waiting for an official firmware update has been somewhat painful.

Thanks for you attempt to help.

-Grey
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Re: Weird Behavior
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2013, 12:26:58 PM »

Have you tested this out with out all the switches in between? Could be distances with cable run, switch maybe...I'd try to narrow down and isolate this issue your seeing. Test directly to the 5500 with out any other switches and APs turn ON, turn them OFF and disconnect them and test.  I don't think this is a FW issue more like a environment issue maybe.
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Greyhawk68

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Re: Weird Behavior
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2013, 12:42:27 PM »

Well I've had this setup for 4-5 years without anything changing but the router.  And like I said, I connect the iMac directly to the 5500 with nothing in between and I get the same behavior.  Only like 1 or 2 MB down and normal speeds up.

And even with the switches and everything in between, the iPhone is getting the full 57 down on speedtest.net whereas all of our laptops (all mac btw) are getting 1 or 2 MB down.

So the issue I'm seeing is mac laptops are getting weird speedtests whereas the the iPhone is seeing full speeds.  I was just wondering if somehow the QoS stuff is determining that the laptops are using HTTP for the speedtests and somehow throttling the HTTP.  Dunno.

I'll keep trying different things, I was just hoping someone was seeing similar behavior and had a fix perhaps.

-Grey
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Re: Weird Behavior
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2013, 02:25:34 PM »

Ok, well if the iphone is getting correct speeds and the MBPs are not, would seem that maybe there is a problem with the MBPs....

Could try disabling SB and ABE or setting ABE to manual 100.00 and 10.00 and see what happens. I'm not seeing this with my MBP with OSX 10.9...I'll run another test this evening...
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Re: Weird Behavior
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2013, 04:34:42 PM »

Heres my test result with my Mac Book Pro wired to the 5500:


5Ghz N mode as my MBP doesn't support AC modes natively:
« Last Edit: December 10, 2013, 04:38:39 PM by FurryNutz »
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