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Author Topic: QOS help  (Read 9409 times)

VGamer360

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QOS help
« on: June 22, 2009, 02:28:26 PM »

Hello.  I am having trouble on my wireless DIR-655 with the QOS engine settings.  What I am trying to do is give my computer a higher priority over my friend's computer.  My friend is always sucking up bandwidth.  The funny thing is, I can't believe that his iTunes (downloading all of his podcasts very frequently and books from iTunes) is cause a laggout and 1,000ms ping in my games.  I want to game without him sucking up all of the bandwidth.  We are both wireless and that is not going to change.  But whenever I try to set it to make it a rule to give me a higher priority on the QOS engine settings, I get this error. 

Can anyone help me on how to fix this? 
"'Kyle's PC': Remote IP start '192.168.0.xxx' is in the LAN subnet"

 
"Name:  Kyle's PC   Priority  2
 
Local IP Range  0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.255     PROTOCOL:  Any

Remote IP Range  192.168.0.195  to 192.168.0.195"


 
How do I fix this? 
« Last Edit: June 22, 2009, 02:31:52 PM by VGamer360 »
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mackworth

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Re: QOS help
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2009, 02:40:05 PM »

You want to put the "192.168.0.195" in the local ip range, not the remote range.
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Re: QOS help
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2009, 04:19:46 PM »

You want to put the "192.168.0.195" in the local ip range, not the remote range.

Hey Mac Daddy (heh, just had to say that), from looking at his picture it looks like he has it there. Did I just make you feel the way Xinot makes me feel? Or, did I miss something again?  ???

Why yes, yes you did miss somthing Clancy. Like, his entire post. I am puzzled, VGamer, your post says Remote but your picture says Local. What's up with that, huh, huh?  ??? ::) :o

Well, OK, second edit. Windows warning says remote too but your router setup picture under QOS rules says your IP is in the Local IP Range entry window. Well, I'm glad I could clear everything up.

What Mackworth said.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2009, 04:31:06 PM by Clancy »
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Re: QOS help
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2009, 04:54:21 PM »

Enter it like this:

"Name:  Kyle's PC   Priority  32 (setting too low is not good)
 
Local IP Range  192.168.0.195 to 192.168.0.195     PROTOCOL:  TCP and UDP

Remote IP Range  0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.0"


and add a rule for your friends IP:

"Name:  Friends's PC   Priority  128
 
Local IP Range  192.168.0.? to 192.168.0.?     PROTOCOL:  TCP and UDP

Remote IP Range  0.0.0.0 to 255.255.255.0"



Remeber: QoS and Wish only determine priority, it does not (the router does not have that feature) limit bandwidth or number of connections. If there is someone using BT or dowloading heavily you're still screwed.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2009, 04:56:18 PM by Demonized »
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VGamer360

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Re: QOS help
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2009, 05:22:32 PM »

Shouldn't this router be able to handle it though?  We have 5 meg speed. 
Oh, and I was actually entering in the 192.168.0.195 into both local and the other. 

And do you know if they will ever incorporate this into the firmware?  Limiting the bandwidth?   I feel the it is a necessary feature in this unit to even be considered for small to medium business if it cannot even handle a home use.   

« Last Edit: June 22, 2009, 06:24:12 PM by VGamer360 »
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Re: QOS help
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2009, 07:39:00 PM »

Vgamer, have you ever run a Speed Test to verify that your computer is downloading @ 5MBps? If it isn't, are you familiar with TCP/IP tweaks?
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Re: QOS help
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2009, 08:36:27 PM »

No, they won't put any bandwidth limited features into the router. Those throttling features are found in their corporate, managed routers, that run 500+ dollars.

The only thing you can do is 1, make priority for the web traffic ports you want. Put suspected torrenters in a lower priority. I have my roomates at 255 because they don't desearve anything. I also have dynamic fragmentation enabled, though I dont know if that even helps.

When things go really bad, I have access control rules set, which inludes their MAC addresses and blocking all ports except messenger ports, port 80, 443 and 53. When I enable that, then their torrents will never connect, but they will still be able to use the web and Windows Messenger.
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VGamer360

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Re: QOS help
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2009, 05:54:49 AM »

Now, would port forwarding help my game at all here?  (And I'm not joking when I say my friend is not torrenting.  He's actually downloading over 1,500 iTunes podcasts . ....that update almost all daily!.  10 at a time.... :P  )
Like for instance, the game's IP server is always 208.122.59.226:5005.  Or from my router, it says.
(or at least, these are the ones that match my game's IP

Oh, and the game is "SubSpace Continuum".  This is one of the 'zones' that I play in constantly that requires very low ping/lag/packet loss

Local                         NAT                           Internet                     Protocol     State Priority   Time out

192.168.0.195:56XXX   XX.XX.XX.XX:56XXX   208.122.59.226:5005   UDP   -   Out   32        300
192.168.0.195:51XXX   XX.XX.XX.XX:51XXX   208.122.59.226:5006   UDP   -   Out   32        255
192.168.0.195:54XXX   XX.XX.XX.XX:54XXX   208.122.59.226:5006   UDP   -   Out   32        202
192.168.0.195:54XXX   XX.XX.XX.XX:54XXX   208.122.59.226:5006   UDP   -   Out   32        202
192.168.0.195:54XXX   XX.XX.XX.XX:54XXX   208.122.59.226:5006   UDP   -   Out   32        202
192.168.0.195:60XXX   XX.XX.XX.XX:60XXX   208.122.59.226:5006   UDP   -   Out   32        105


How would I enter those into port forwarding? 
(I did not want give out all of my ports of my NAT for safety reasons of becoming an easy target) 

Also, would it help if I set my PC to DMZ host mode.   It's under  Advanced>Firewall settings.
I know I wouldn't have the firewall of the router, but how risky would this actually be if I already have a firewall going on my PC?

EDIT:  This is absurd.  While pinging that host there, you can see in my screenshot of what happened.  I snuck onto his computer to see what he was running.  Nothing shows up but Firefox really in his processes.  (At least, programs that would be more than a widget connecting to the internet).  So I go run a speed test on Charter's website.  (Because Charter Communications is our ISP)   When I start the test on his computer, I get this huge ping jump on mine!  Look at the screenshot!  And if it matters, he was getting 5.4 meg download speed and 1.024 meg upload speed.  We pay for 5 meg. 


« Last Edit: June 23, 2009, 06:29:55 AM by VGamer360 »
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Re: QOS help
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2009, 09:20:04 AM »

Shouldn't this router be able to handle it though?  We have 5 meg speed. 
Oh, and I was actually entering in the 192.168.0.195 into both local and the other. 

And do you know if they will ever incorporate this into the firmware?  Limiting the bandwidth?   I feel the it is a necessary feature in this unit to even be considered for small to medium business if it cannot even handle a home use.   

For a +/- $125 router? No. The cheapest you can find is Vigor I think (but that's a router + ADSL2+ modem) for about €250 / $300.

Why is it necessary? In small businesses you will not find a lot of BT downloading or other activities that 'smother' bandwidth. In home use there is a more social way in arranging those things (bandwidth regulators on clients).
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Re: QOS help
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2009, 09:24:40 AM »

DMZ or PF do not influence this. From the ping it seems his connection is not of god quality. Gaming through wireless with other clients on the LAN is really not the ideal situation when you need low latency (ping).

You might want to experiment with different channel settings to make sure you're not obstructed by other AP's in the neighbourhood.
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VGamer360

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Re: QOS help
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2009, 10:36:44 AM »

No one lives near enough to interfere with it.  I also switched it to broadcast on channel 3 because it is one that is not as cluttered as much as channel 11.
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Re: QOS help
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2009, 10:54:02 AM »

1 and 6 are also good alternatives, but your local situation also determines the best channel. So give all a good try.
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VGamer360

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Re: QOS help
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2009, 11:14:27 AM »

I thought 6 was too close to 7, also a popular channel from what I've heard. 
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Re: QOS help
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2009, 11:18:08 AM »

1, 6 and 11 are channels that have no overlapping channel areas. So those are most popular.
You can get a good overview of your environment by running a tool on your wireless client called INSSIDer (http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider).
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VGamer360

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Re: QOS help
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2009, 11:22:38 AM »

I just ran a scan for a minute or three and I am ONLY picking up my wifi router on that program. 
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