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Author Topic: Shareport UPnP capable?  (Read 7961 times)

eman

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Shareport UPnP capable?
« on: July 04, 2009, 10:47:46 AM »

I have a DSM-750 MediaLounge that talks with a DSM-G600 NAS but cannot not deliver .mkv to it (last firmware for the 600 was 2006). This is probably a real stretch, but is there a possibility that future DIR-655 firmware may be able to give it UPnP. I know that that the G600 has an embedded linux kernel, so UPnP take some horses.. 

Thanks.. ce 
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davevt31

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Re: Shareport UPnP capable?
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2009, 12:46:17 PM »

DIR-655 has UPnP.

You may want to point Shareport questions to the deicated shareport threads:

For PC : http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?board=252.0

Fopr Mac: http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?board=253.0
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ttmcmurry

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Re: Shareport UPnP capable?
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2009, 01:08:49 PM »

I believe what ce_runner is asking is how to share MKV over UPnP with the DSM-G600 to the DSM-750.

If the DNS-323 & 343 can be any form of template for the G600, then the UPnP server cannot and does not share MKV.  This has been discussed ad nauseum over in those forums.  Yeah, it really should and D-Link really needs to pick up the ball on this one-- especially since D-Link's own products can PLAY MKV but other D-Link products can't SHARE MKV.  Ironic, isn't it?

Unfortunately, since I'm ultimately not very familiar with the older NASes from D-Link, I cannot speak with any certainty there is not 3rd party solution that can satisfy the need to serve up MKV. 

The DIR-655 isn't the issue here, this question really could best be answered in another forum.
« Last Edit: July 04, 2009, 01:10:28 PM by ttmcmurry »
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eman

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Re: Shareport UPnP capable?
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2009, 02:10:22 PM »

Thanks for the quick responses. I have tried the DSM-G600 user group with basically the same question. It was  suggested that I write a hack to the linux kernel to get then G600 to allow the .mkv to be seen by the the 750.

When raised with the DSM-750 group, Its moderator (ECF) had threads from other DLINK NAS users who also could not pass .mkv to their 750's. He said he would pass the request to the NAS group and we have not heard anything yet. Shareport would be a interesting alternative... I will look into the Shareport user groups.. Just getting tired of unplugging the Mybook and lugging it downstairs to the 750... Why have a N network?

ce
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ttmcmurry

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Re: Shareport UPnP capable?
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2009, 06:50:13 PM »

Basically, Shareport isn't going to do you any good.  :(  Let me get real specific for you, because I believe there is a misunderstanding of the (somewhat confusing) topic of what UPnP is.

The DIR-655 does not contain a UPnP-AV server.  It is very important to understand the type of  UPnP the 655 supports works in terms of allowing UPnP-aware network applications (utorrent) and appliances (DSM-G600) change specific router settings to allow proper communication to the internet.

The DSM-G600 contains a UPnP-AV server.  This allows the G600 to say to UPnP-AV aware applications (Windows Media Player 12) & appliances (DSM-750) 'hey, I'm sharing these folders & these files' and vastly simplifies the media sharing experience.

Shareport was designed to make any USB device that is plugged into the DIR-655's USB port wirelessly appear on a Windows computer as if it were physically plugged in.  Since the DSM-700 isn't a Windows computer, you can't install Shareport on it, and you can't benefit from it.

ECF is right in saying you can patch the G600 to allow MKV to work, but it's work and not really something I'd advise anyone short of a Linux super-user to attempt.  If "make" "configure" and "nano" mean nothing to you, don't bother with it. 

I can certainly understand why UPnP can be a confusing topic as well as DLNA (which is a subset of UPnP features).  Honestly, the easiest thing would be for D-Link to upgrade their NAS products to share MKV over UPnP - especially since their playback devices support this feature.  But this isn't the forum for that.
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Demonized

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Re: Shareport UPnP capable?
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2009, 08:02:38 AM »

During installation Shareport will ask to be added to the Windows Firewall as exception. This will open Windows Firewall for Shareport ports. So in that sense it does not support UPnP, the communication ports are static and cannot be changed.
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Lycan

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Re: Shareport UPnP capable?
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2009, 09:32:16 AM »

I believe what ce_runner is asking is how to share MKV over UPnP with the DSM-G600 to the DSM-750.

If the DNS-323 & 343 can be any form of template for the G600, then the UPnP server cannot and does not share MKV.  This has been discussed ad nauseum over in those forums.  Yeah, it really should and D-Link really needs to pick up the ball on this one-- especially since D-Link's own products can PLAY MKV but other D-Link products can't SHARE MKV.  Ironic, isn't it?

Unfortunately, since I'm ultimately not very familiar with the older NASes from D-Link, I cannot speak with any certainty there is not 3rd party solution that can satisfy the need to serve up MKV. 

The DIR-655 isn't the issue here, this question really could best be answered in another forum.

Hosting and playing are completely different, I'm sure that we have plans to add it eventually.
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ttmcmurry

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Re: Shareport UPnP capable?
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2009, 10:20:50 PM »

Hosting and playing are completely different, I'm sure that we have plans to add it eventually.

I certainly hope so.  It seems inconsistent to have some of the product mix supporting some features but not others.  I mean this specifically in terms of UPnP.. i.e. if the playback device supports MKV, knowing how brand loyal people can be, it would make sense the serving device also serve up MKV.  Even though they are two completely different functions, the user's expectation is "this should just work". IIRC, MKV is a open standard and I don't recall royalties or licensing being a requirement. 

I've totally derailed the point of this conversation with this post. :P
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