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[FurryNutz]

What is the ISP modem and router Mfr and model at work?

Glad you figured it out. Ya, seemed very odd behavior with the 885L and not seeing it on the 880L.

I'll update I hope this week with MoCa.

You might test out LAN cable connections in the future with Tivo and see how that does for you.

Enjoy for now. 

[ukwildcat4life]

At work they use the same ISP and cable modem gateway that I use at home which is an Arris TG862........although I seemed to have everything working and figured out most of the problems, the Tivo's not wanting to connect still have a mind of their own at times......like I said before, if I many any changes in the router and save those changes or reboot the Tivos will quit working and that was with DMZ enabled.......but at some point they will start working again.......so there still seems to be something incompatible with this router and Tivo and its really hard to figure out.........also how should the antenna's be oriented for this router to get the best reception in a single story house?  the owner's manual said to extend them at a 45 degree angle away from the unit and that's what I did but also noticed the wifi, particularly the 5GHz band wasn't that great as far as range goes so I'm a little disappointed in that....it didn't appear to have any more range than the 880L from my testing unless I should be positioning those antennas a different way? any suggestions? thanks, James

[FurryNutz]

What about the router at work? They use a router at work or use the ISP modem as there router?

5Ghz is best with in 20 feet or so with 1 wooden wall in between. 5Ghz is effected by building materials due to it's high frequency. 5ghz doesn't have the range due to this as 2.4Ghz or unless your in line of sight on 5Ghz.

Up and down are recommended for single level buildings, multi level building angle the antennas:
Wireless Installation Considerations

[ukwildcat4life]

At work the router that is built into the arris modem is in use.........as far as the antenna's I had them at 45 degree angles to I may test them up and down and see if that improves the 5GHz signal .....thanks for the tip.....

[FurryNutz]

Ok. Just wanted to confirm one router at work.

[ukwildcat4life]

Everything still working ok except when I make a change in the router's settings my Tivo's apps quit connecting until re enable DMZ, etc.....do you think Dlink will address this issue in an upcoming firmware release? and one more question....do you think if I exchanged this 885L to the 890L , the 890 would have the same problems? the 880 works perfect............thanks, James

[FurryNutz]

So I got one of my Joeys connected via RG6 and working on MoCa this evening. Took 2 tries before the Joey stopped rebooting. Ya, nothing related to what I thought was using LAN cable. After it stabilized, I watched a short test on Netflix and streamed on Pandora. Seems to be working ok for me. I just made a change to QoS on the 885 and will test again. I'll try and get my 2nd Joey on MoCa tomorrow.

I like my 890L.

[ukwildcat4life]

Thanks for the update....I did a little experiment myself..........I wanted to know if the problems this router is having with Tivo was possibly related to MoCA so I completely unplugged my MoCA adapter and took MoCA completely out of the mix and I connected my Tivo Bolt DVR via wifi and sure enough the same problem remains..........so I have concluded from my testing that there is something in the 885's firmware or firewall that is causing the Tivo problems.......it appears that the ports that Tivo utilizes are being blocked somehow and the only solution is to enable DMZ but like I said if I make any changes to the router then it quit working until I disable and then re enable..........another bug I found is that I cannot access my USB drive unless DLNA is enabled in share port......I did not have to do this on the 880L................so if you could pass this information along to the development team hopefully they can fix these bugs in an upcoming firmware..............thanks for your help..............

[ukwildcat4life]

By the way, I have never used the QOS feature or Smart Connect....do you recommend using the QOS for my Tivo system? think it might help with the problem any?

[FurryNutz]

Might give it a try and see. I was using default settings last nite on QoS 300/300 with nothing loaded. I changed to 120/4 to see how it does with my actual ISP speed of 100/3. I was gaming last night on XBL and encountered some issues so I changed QoS and will try again tonite.

SC is enabled on the 885L and seems to be working for me. However I haven't had time to dive into wireless and my Joeys are not configured for wireless.

I think there maybe something specific with TiVo and this model router that differs from other model routers. Would need to collect some wireshark data as the problem with TiVo happens.

The DLNA being enabled to access SP maybe a change that D-Link did on this model router and maybe changing on all since DLNA is related to using SP and USB drives when connected.

[ukwildcat4life]

I tried the QOS  smart connect and that didn't make any difference......there is just simply some incompatibility in the firmware with Tivo........I really hope they will fix this in their next firmware update as I plan on keeping the 885L....the 890L looks nice but I don't really need a tri band and if I'm correct the 890's processor isn't as fast and it won't be supporting MU-MIMO?............

[FurryNutz]

Ya thats what I'm thinking. D-Link is aware of it and I told them what I'm seeing on my DISH system as well. I presume they will be looking at it.

I don't know if the 890L will be supporting MIMO. I thought it or the 895L was was going to however I can't remember for sure. I think the 885L is a great router. Just one minor issue with TiVo is all. Once thats fixed, I think you'll be fine.

At some point you could change over from RG to RJ45 maybe and use that connection method. Or even set up your TiVo remote units to LAN wired to the back of a wireless bridge thats connected to the 885L. I've done this before with my Joeys and they work just fine. Just a suggestion. You could do that now with the 880L.

[ukwildcat4life]

Thanks for passing that information along to Dlink........yes the 885L is an awesome router and its a perfect fit for my networking environment.  I just don't really have enough devices connected to need a tri band router....I like that the 885 has the 1.4 GHZ processor and to know that a future firmware update will enable MU-MIMO although at the moment I don't have any devices that would even support MU_MIMO.............I'm getting a lot better range on the 5 GHz band after adjusting the antennas some but it was my Roku 3 being in the same room as the router is what was causing some wireless interference......Roku's somehow broadcast their own wifi SSID and even though you can't connect to it , it does cause problems with the 5 GHz band....since I don't use my Roku much I just unplugged it and my range and signal quality is a lot better now.

As far as MoCA vs wireless bridge......Tivo does not recommend and will not give support or troubleshooting if you use anything other than ethernet or MoCA......I have read on the tivo community forums that a lot of folks do indeed use wireless bridges and do what you suggested with success but for me MocA is the way to go....all I have to do is just plug one MoCA adapter to my cable modem and router and it basically just sends ethernet throughout my home's coaxial cables so for me its just a better set up with less interference and less clutter and equipment to buy.....I would have to buy two wireless bridges if I did what you suggested......good to hear that works good with your Joy system though... I used to have Directv and their setup worked over wireless and it worked good but it sure wasn't as fast as MoCA on my Tivo's.

I'm gonna just be patient and wait for what I hope is a firmware update from Dlink that will fix the 885's problem with Tivo......but at least I can get it to work by enabling DMZ for the time being......other than that the router seems very stable and Dlink is my new preferred brand because a couple of their tech support agents told me that they provide 24/7 customer support without charge as long as the device has not been discontinued .......to me that's what I call standing behind a product! Netgear and Linksys sure doesn't do that!  and the agents I have chat with from Dlink have all been so helpful and knowledgable including you and Kakashi on here.....this is a great forum and I'm glad I found it.......thanks again for the help and if you find anything out about a future Tivo fix please let me know......

[FurryNutz]

Understand. Ya I only have a few devices that use AC 1300Mb and those are bridges. I don't have any native AC devices that use full 1300Mb rates let alone MU-MIMO

Yes Roku's can broadcast there own WiIF. I think it can be disabled if you want to use the RoKu as a streamer. I'd connect it wired LAN.

Wireless isn't as good as MoCA or LAN cable.

I'm sure the issue will be fixed. Will have to see on next update. 

[ukwildcat4life]

I will definitely be looking forward to the next firmware update and hopefully the Tivo incompatibility gets resolved.....but I really love this router so far though and I can definitely live with the few bugs that it currently has