After working with tech support, the way we were able to get the loopback working was by creating a route from the public IP to the core then setting the SAT and NAT rules destination interface to the core. 
Routing 
 -Routing Tables 
  -main
Add route: 
Type   Interface   Network 
Route  core          Public_IP of server
Then for the rules: 
Action   Source interface  Source network  Destination interface  Destination network   Service
SAT      any                   all-nets             core                        Public_IP of server     desired_service
NAT      any                   all-nets             core                        Public_IP of server     desired_service
Only thing now is we cant connect to the public IP of the server from a client on the VLAN network, all though everything from the lannet works great 

*Edit - by changing the allow to NAT we were able to get the VLAN network to work as well!