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willytee

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Wireless Networking Problem
« on: September 05, 2009, 12:27:04 PM »

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A little insight please...

Maybe some of you guys can help me out here. I did not have a problem setting up a network (file sharing between computers) with my other router, but this DLINK DIR655 has me baffled. The router and cable modem is running off the main PC which uses Vista. Now i have two other PC/s running XP. On my main PC i can see the 2 other PC's in the network and can access the files shared. Now what i want to do is for the other 2 PC's to be able to see and access my shared files on my main pc running vista. For the life of me i cannot get it to work. None of the PC's seem to be picking up my main PC's files. Its weird tho because my main PC can pick up the other PC's files and such.

The one running vista/the main one is

Private network. Network Discovery, File Sharing, Public Folder Sharing, Printer Sharing, and Media Sharing are all ON.

Now if i go on my laptop and try to access the network.. alls i see is.. the shared docs on my laptop, and also an icon for my router. If i click on the icon for my router it just takes me to the router log in screen.
-Also if i open up Network Places and try to View workgroup computers, the laptop comes up with an error saying. "network name" is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network reource. The network path was not found.

Anybody have any idea? Ill be in this a few min so if you have any questions or didnt understand anything i said..
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Sammydad1

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Re: Wireless Networking Problem
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2009, 01:08:31 PM »

Hi,

One item to verify, and Vista doesn't always make it easy to do is to make sure the WORKGROUP name for all your pc's is exaclt the same...  NETWORK is not the same as  network

Other thing is firewall settings....they can be a hair-puller....sometimes.

Can each of the pc's see their own "shares" if you open Network Neighborhood on each PC.... I think Vista calls it something different tho....  In other words...From XP Pc1 can you see XP PC1 in the My Network Places (aka View Workgroup Computers)...and so on from each pc....  If not, there is something else going on....

DO you have Acronis Home 2009 running on your Vista pc by chance ?  I just found otu about a very weird thing that Acronis users are seeing on some PC's where it changes or causes a MSLANMAN SERVER Registry setting to not allow other networked PC's to see and access files on the PC with Acronis software installed.....

Also make sure the IP and subnet are all compatible....  like  192.168.1.100   subnet mask  255.255.255.0


Just a few things to check.... Let us know if anything helps...


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willytee

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Re: Wireless Networking Problem
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2009, 01:32:09 PM »

On both PC's running XP i can see both its own shared folder, and the shared folder ofthe other runing XP, still cannot see the main PC's shared folder.

LIke i said earlier, i am able on the main one running vista to view the PC's running XP shared folder and access the info.

The workgroups look to be the same. Names MSHOME
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willytee

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Re: Wireless Networking Problem
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2009, 01:35:30 PM »

UPDATE.

Now i am able to see all three PC's on my laptop running XP... but if i try to access the main pc in the workgroup MSHOME it prompts me and says...it is not accessible. You may not have permission to use this network resource.. The network path was not found.

Any ideas?
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Sammydad1

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Re: Wireless Networking Problem
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2009, 03:08:57 PM »

Hi,

Sounding more like a vista firewall thing...

Try disabling all the firewall(s) on the main PC....if you can then access the Main PC's shared files...that will point you in the right direction...

Sad thing is that you definitely NOT the first person with this sort of troubles between Vista and XP machines...


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willytee

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Re: Wireless Networking Problem
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2009, 03:12:20 PM »

Vista firewall is disabled on the main PC. Still cannot access.

I did not have any problems with my network before. I dont know if its because i switched routers? I had a linksys before and it seemed to work just fine until the router went out.
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bigeyes0x0

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Re: Wireless Networking Problem
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2009, 06:13:57 PM »

Windows XP should be updated to at least SP3 to work reliable with Vista file sharing, then if you set up everything regarding file sharing correctly you will be able to connect just fine. Before SP3 even if you set everything up correctly and set Vista to share folders without password, XP would still ask user for authentication which you type whatever in to get access. Still annoying though.
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willytee

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Re: Wireless Networking Problem
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2009, 07:42:18 PM »

SP3 is installed on both pc's running XP.

-I even tried connecting with Vista firewall disabled and still could not get the sharing files to show up.
-Also, Mchaffie shows all the PC's of Xp on the network list, they are on the map.

I just dont see why on the vista pc, i can see all computers on the network and access thier files (the 2 pc's running XP), but if im on one of the pc's running xp i cant see anything sharing on the main pc (the one with vista). Even with firewall disabled.
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bigeyes0x0

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Re: Wireless Networking Problem
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2009, 07:53:25 PM »

Did u enable WLAN partition in Advanced -> Advanced Wireless in DIR-655 settings. That setting enable something like VLAN for each wireless client and I don't know if it also disables wireless client to communicate with wired ones but it's worth a shot.

Have u tried not changing any setting on all these computers and put in the old router, does it work then? If it works, please post your settings for IP on your computers, did you set them up in DHCP mode or static IP mode? And if they're in DHCP mode please post your settings there in the DIR-655.

EDIT: On 2nd thought, I don't think the WLAN Partition setting is the problem as if it does work like advertised you shouldn't be able to access another wireless client from one. But it's worth a check and I wanna know if all of your clients are wireless?
« Last Edit: September 05, 2009, 07:59:26 PM by bigeyes0x0 »
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willytee

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Re: Wireless Networking Problem
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2009, 08:31:02 PM »

Yes the other two clients are wireless. Is it possibly easier/more compatable to have the router/modem hooked up to a pc running XP? I could very well put everything on one running XP, if you think its would be easier to have the network.  I will look at trying some of the things you said and report back here. The other router unfortunatly doesnt work anymore, thus the reason for me buying the DIR655 router.

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davevt31

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Re: Wireless Networking Problem
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2009, 08:34:53 PM »

Make sure you put the everyone permission on in your shared folder in Vista.
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bigeyes0x0

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Re: Wireless Networking Problem
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2009, 10:08:55 PM »

Yeah that too, if OP allows guest share. I share with specific users so I forgot that. About my setup, I have Windows 7, Vista and XP at home, and they all play well together with DIR-655 1.32NA firmware.

One more thing is the poster might want to try is to unshare everything then reshare them again, sometimes the permission on Windows Vista/7 is messed up after reinstalling (you might wanna check the permission and owner all again too). That did fix my problem one time when clients from other computers can't access my shares.
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testiles

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Re: Wireless Networking Problem
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2009, 11:53:16 PM »

Willy Tee,

 I just saw this post and I feel ya! I just spent an entire day trying to figure out the same exact problem.

 I have a home network with a wired XP Media Center desktop for the main computer and two wireless Vista laptops.

 They all played together beautifully with my previous router, but couldn't see each other with the D-Link. I proved this by swapping the old router and the D-Link back and forth and changing nothing else. Old router worked everytime, D-Link did not.

 Wireless Vista laptop 1 could "see" Wireless Vista laptop 2 but 2 could not see 1. And neither saw the wired XP Desktop. The XP was in a world all its own. I tried to look at Workgroups on the XP and got the same message you did, "not allowed".

  I checked a lot of the same things you did, including the workgroup name -- several times. Nothing seemed to work.

  Finally I did 2 things back to back and everyone saw everyone else on the network.....

  1)  I reconfigured the Router settings and THIS time under DHCP Server settings, I turned on "Netbios Announcements" ("NetBIOS allows LAN hosts to discover all other computers within the network, e.g. within Network Neighbourhood.") and enabled "Learn Netbios Information from WAN" ("If NetBIOS advertisement is switched on, switching this setting on causes WINS information to be learned from the WAN side, if available").

  2) I went to the firewall settings on each PC, pulled up the network and declared each member of the network "a trusted source" - again I  repeated this on each PC.

   Now I don't know which of these actions made things work and I don't care. I just know I now have a fully connected network!


    I know its been some time since you posted. I hope you either already solved the problem or if not, that this will help you.


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