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Author Topic: DDNS - Custom/Free  (Read 11919 times)

JoeSchmuck

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DDNS - Custom/Free
« on: November 10, 2009, 04:03:52 PM »

What is the difference between the two options?  I don't see anything obvious on the screen and at DDNS I do have a free account but what's the difference?  Does Custom imply paid?  Does it update less or more frequently?

I'm suprised I didn't see this question posted earlier or did I overlook something obvious?

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gunrunnerjohn

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Re: DDNS - Custom/Free
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2009, 04:12:27 PM »

I'm sure the custom is paid, it's where you choose the domain name.
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Re: DDNS - Custom/Free
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2009, 04:47:52 PM »

Even though I feel confident Custom means Paid, what's the difference as far as the NAS is concerned?  Even if it's a free account there are many domain names to choose from.  As for the number of updates, I think the rules may be a bit more relaxed for paying customers but free users cannot update thier accounts more than once a day if the IP address hasn't changed without tossing a flag.  I tossed that flag once trying to get something working.  It was easy to unlock the account but I was more careful after that.

So, what's the difference, I don't see it.

Also, how often does the NAS check to see if the IP Address has changed?  Is it every 5 minutes or 30 minutes?  I think these are good questions myself.

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Re: DDNS - Custom/Free
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2009, 05:40:48 PM »

I don't think it means anything as far as the NAS is concerned.  I've been using a free DynDNS account for years, and it's worked fine for me.

One point.  I tried several D-Link router DNS update features, and they never really worked properly.  A key failing was not updating periodically, so the free account would expire.  I ended up just running the DynDNS client on my main machine and forgetting about the DynDNS updater in the routers or the NAS boxes.

It might be nice to find out if D-Link has updated the handler in these boxes to automatically update periodically so the account doesn't expire.
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Re: DDNS - Custom/Free
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2009, 01:02:03 PM »

I would love to hear from a moderator what the difference is.  There must be something otherwise why would there be the two options to select from?

I hear you on the devices not updating frequently, like my Router.  You would think that it would know the IP address changed and spit out an update to DYNDNS.org but it could be over an hour before that occurs.  So like you I started using the Dyndnsupdater service on my computer.  I'd love to get rid of it if the NAS can support it in a timely fashion.

This is why I ask about the Custom or Free option.  What is the difference as far as how the NAS treats them?

-Joe
« Last Edit: November 11, 2009, 06:09:35 PM by JoeSchmuck »
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Re: DDNS - Custom/Free
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2009, 01:59:39 PM »

Actually, the issue is not recognizing the IP address change.  The free accounts expire if you don't force a renewal every month.  The PC client automatically forces an update every 25 days, but the clients on the routers didn't do that.  After 30 days, I'd get an email saying my account was going to expire, and I'd have to go renew it.  Since running the DynDNS client on my main machine, I haven't seen that notice in years.
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Re: DDNS - Custom/Free
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2009, 06:08:46 PM »

So you're saying your IP address doesn't change at times for over 30 days?  I have a dynamic IP address which is why I need DYNDNS and it changes about every 3 days, or sooner if I turn off the modem for over an hour.  I wish I had a static IP.

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Re: DDNS - Custom/Free
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2009, 05:40:19 AM »

Actually, my IP address stays the same for months at a time.  I think the normal happening that changes it is a power failure long enough to release it, that would depend on where in the DHCP lease period for the WAN the interruption occurs.  Since the lease period is 2 hours, it would have to be at least an hour interruption to force a change.
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Re: DDNS - Custom/Free
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2009, 07:59:41 AM »

Any comments from a Moderator of the difference between Custom and Free options?
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Re: DDNS - Custom/Free
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2009, 08:12:04 AM »

I suspect you may have to go ping D-Link support with an email with that specific question.  Since they go through DynDNS for their service, I suspect it's the same as a custom domain there, you pay for it.

It would be nice to get a response here, but that doesn't seem to be happening. :)

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Re: DDNS - Custom/Free
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2009, 12:17:07 PM »

Can't a guy take a few days off! Anyways, yes it is exactly as mentioned. Custom is a payed for domain for instance some services offer you a redirect service for www.yourdomain.com if you wanted to say run your own ftp/http server etc. Free will only work on the free accounts registered through dlinkddns.com or sometihng like.......mydns323.dlinkddns.com

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Re: DDNS - Custom/Free
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2009, 01:23:13 PM »

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Free will only work on the free accounts registered through dlinkddns.com or sometihng like.......mydns323.dlinkddns.com

Are you sure?

I have a DynDNS account, so I plugged in my login data and domain, and it logged in, updated, and gave me status of when the next update would be.  I never registered through the D-Link site, since it says it's supplied by DynDNS anyway.
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Re: DDNS - Custom/Free
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2009, 04:30:14 PM »

Same diff. I am sure DynDNS accounts work too :)
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gunrunnerjohn

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Re: DDNS - Custom/Free
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2009, 05:08:55 PM »

OK, that's what I got from the web page, and when I tried it, it seemed to work fine. :)

Thanks.
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Re: DDNS - Custom/Free
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2009, 05:48:46 PM »

First, take a day off, Ha Ha, funny but glad someone gets those things.

Second, I found the answer I needed to explain the difference between Free and Custom and I assume this is how the NAS works the difference...

Free uses the name server: members.dyndns.org
Custom uses the following name servers and the first two are required to be used: ns1.mydyndns.org, ns2.mydyndns.org, ns3.mydyndns.org, ns4.mydyndns.org, and ns5.mydyndns.org

This should clear it up if anyone else was wondering and if someone finds out I'm incorrect, please post the correction.  This is just what I found on DnyDns.org and doesn't mean the NAS actually implemented this but I suspect it does since someone took the time to add it in the first place.

-Joe
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