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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => Routers / COVR => DGL-4500 => Topic started by: XS on January 26, 2012, 06:59:17 AM
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Does anyone know when and how often does this router test your upload speed when this option is set to automatic and not manual?
The reason I am asking is because I notice every once in awhile when I do a speedtest my UL is only 3meg and is usually 5meg on speedtest.net.
If I reset the router and proceed to run another speedtest then the UL speed goes back up to 5meg. Last night when I noticed this, I saw my measured up link speed at 3 meg before I reset it. Once I reset it, this value went back up to 5meg.
So to me it appears if you have this option set to auto and for whatever reason this router measures your upload speed lower than something it is, you will be capped at this UL speed until it is measured again.
Thoughts?
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I usually recommend turning this option OFF if running a low uplink. Since your is a higher UP, not sure if setting it OFF would work. It could be possible that the router is falling back to a lower speed if the router isn't being used alot, not sure. Can you set a manual 6048 speed or will it let you? I know the max preset is 2048. What FW version are you on right now?
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Hey Furry!
I have FW A2 1.23NA.
Last night I disabled auto uplink and manually entered 5120 to see what happens.
The auto uplink does not make sense if it actually caps your UL speed to last time it checked it. I mean, if the bandwidth is there then you should be able to use it, however the way I think this router works it will cap it at the last uplink speed check???
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Ya it's possible depending on the quality and results it got from doing the test. Not sure how D-Link does or handles this. If you can set a manual UL speed and it holds then use manual.
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Found this in the help section (tab) in the router.
Automatic Uplink Speed
When enabled, this option causes the router to automatically measure the useful uplink bandwidth each time the WAN interface is re-established (after a reboot, for example).
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;)
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nm, got it figured out ;)
EDIT: nother question though, if it's set higher than normal speeds, how will this effect the performance?
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Shouldn't effect performance at all. I currently working with a guy who has an A2 and his is set for Auto Uplink and his status on the router says 16Mb and change. First time seeing anything above my 2Mb on mine. ::) So I believe leaving it at Auto should work as well.
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I should of asked this also. If setting it lower than my max, how would this effect latency to a game server? probably not at all, huh?
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I wouldn't think so. You can test that out and let us know. ???
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Yeah upload band width should not effect latency. FYI: I recommend leaving it set to manual and entering the speed you get when you run a test on speedtest.net.
I don't trust it set to auto hence this thread.
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I set it to 128 kbps and the 20 ping server i usually play on started off around 356 ping, then adjusted over a period of about 2 min, back down to ~ 24 ping at which point the server said i had a duplicate login. Which I am guessing is because of the slow upload speed. That was with no-one on the server. I'm going to keep it like that to really give it a test with other people in the server.
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I keep getting duplicate login notices when the map session is over and end up being booted from the server. I think it has to do with the connection time-out which is not a configurable parameter in the 4500
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Just a theory but if the connection was choked to something small like 512kbps and the server still gave me a 20 or so ping wouldn't my connection be a prioritized connection with essentially smaller packets that would arrange my packets to be sent to the server at a higher rate ?
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How are you mapping to this server?
I havn't seen that before.
I presume packets would be arranged to be sent to the server at a higer rate. Might also depend on any traffic or programs slowing down the server. Stuff like anti-viruses and firwalls. This server on the LAN or WAN side?
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i dont know what you are talking about by mapping
it's WAN side
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You said something about a map session ???
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What is the purpose of limiting your upload speed in the first place? I mean why would anyone want to lower there upload speed if the bandwidth is there?
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Theortically you don't want to and technically the speed handling between the router and modem should be handled automatically, specially at higher speeds since some routers manual preset settings don't cover anything much above 2Mb. Now days were seeing alot more UPLink speeds faster than 2Mb. I was on a teamviwer call yesterday with a guy that really didn't know what speeds he had from is ISP. I believe he was on a 20down and a 8 up from one speedtest.net sample. However when I looked at the automatic uplink speed counter on the 4500, I saw 16000Kb once then I swore I saw a 46000Kb reading. ???
When it comes to lowering speeds, there is a valid reason, when I was in the military in communications, one rule I still remember today, "You can only send as fast as the receiver can receive." So sometimes going too fast can present problems. ::)
So with all these faster speeds the ISP are allowing users to have, is a good thing, however I believe these routers can handle them just fine if left in automatic. Users should test each setting out and see what works best for them.
My 2 cents.
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I am wondering if anyone knows how GF truly handles upload speed? What I mean is, my minimum upload speed is 2meg and I have confirmed this numerous times by running upload speed tests. However if I enter a manual setting of 2048 and run those same speed tests, they come up short at 1.6-1.8Meg.
If I enter the manual uplink speed to 2.5meg (2560) then I get my minimum upload speed of 2meg every time.
Anyone know why this is the case, why GF (QoS) is only allowing your network to use 80-90% of your actual upload capacity?
I read somewhere that the router actually reserves this 10-20% as headroom and will use it if needed, is this true?
Update: 3/12/12
Looks like it was the website I was using to test upload speed that was/is giving me low upload speeds is the culprit. I been running sustained upload speed tests on a few other sites and I am closer to 1.9meg.
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What site were you using? Just curious...
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I usually recommend turning this option OFF if running a low uplink. Since your is a higher UP, not sure if setting it OFF would work. It could be possible that the router is falling back to a lower speed if the router isn't being used alot, not sure. Can you set a manual 6048 speed or will it let you? I know the max preset is 2048. What FW version are you on right now?
I had to do this (4500, A2, FW 1.23b3), without "manually" setting my upload speed, it was cut in half.
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I was using this website to test upload speed and I chose the 29.2M upload test since I have speedburst.
http://testmy.net/upload (http://testmy.net/upload)
Also to avoid any confusion with my first post and last post. I have 15/2 service with speed burst which gives my downloads and uploads a jump start with additional bandwidth use and then slows down to my minium bandwidth. With speed boost I get 18/5 and this is why I was using a sustained speedtest website/
Also I highly recommend setting this option to manual uplink speed and entering upload speed. I am going to start a separate thread discussing GF and cable companies that use speedburst.
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What happens if you put in 4096? Guess im goin to have to break out the 4500 and test again.
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If I set it to 4096 it will come in at 3.7-3.8 meg on that one website.
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And what is your UP your paying for again?
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I found a bug, or something going on with my Automatic uplink speed.
Under Log options, I have all checked, except for Informational.
When that is un-checked, and I have Automatic Uplink Speed checked, Measured Uplink Speed is unknown.
When I check to include Informational in the log, reboot, the Measured Uplink Speed is correct.
Too bad it won't be fixed. :( I don't know if having everything logged will bog down the firewall. I only enable Informational when I'm troubleshooting. I wonder if anyone else can duplicate this.
(http://www.robotreviews.com/sites/default/files/images/automatic_uplink_speed.preview.jpg)
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2meg up, furry.
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Ok, thats probably the reserved over head. I remember someone talking about this years ago.
@ Fraggboy, what AW and FW version do you have? What ISP SVC and Modem do you have. Speed UP and DOWN?
Maybe XS and chime in on this?
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@ Fraggboy, what AW and FW version do you have? What ISP SVC and Modem do you have. Speed UP and DOWN?
Maybe XS and chime in on this?
1.23NA, and V2. I have Cox with a Motorola 6120. I am on the Premier plan, which supposed to get ~20-25 down, and ~5 up, but my speeds tells me I'm on their Ultimate plan (Much higher download. Not complaining).
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Thats kewl...Well I'd check but then I'm at work and then even if I was home I'd have to reconfigure the 4500 from AP to router, hehe. It's currently set up to service xbox. ;D Let us know if XS can test this out or anyone else.
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Totally understand.. :) I was just curious if anyone else experienced this also. Even if it can, there won't be a fix. I will just leave the Informational checked in the logs all of the time so it can keep an accurate measure (Since it changes).
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Well if we can reproduce it, I'll forward it one just so they know about it.
Are there any log entries listed when you set this up? Any errors or problems the log sees?
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I found a bug, or something going on with my Automatic uplink speed.
Under Log options, I have all checked, except for Informational.
When that is un-checked, and I have Automatic Uplink Speed checked, Measured Uplink Speed is unknown.
When I check to include Informational in the log, reboot, the Measured Uplink Speed is correct.
Too bad it won't be fixed. :( I don't know if having everything logged will bog down the firewall. I only enable Informational when I'm troubleshooting. I wonder if anyone else can duplicate this.
Frag, is this repeatable everytime?
In my log options I have everything checked and when I did have auto uplink speed checked my Measured Uplink Speed would change (obviously) but what I did not like sometimes it would measure my uplink speed lower than it actually was and cap it there even though I had more capacity.
I am at work too so I can not try it out either but when I get chance I will see if my 4500 does the same thing.
I just keep it manual now and all good! ;D
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Possible that Frags UP link is beyond the scope of automatic measurement. However would be interesting to see if this happens regardless. :-\ I only have 2UP here.
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My ISP provider uses speedburst which gives me bursts up to 5 meg for the first 10meg of uploading. When I did have auto uplink enable I would see over 6000 as measured uplink speed every once in awhile so I am pretty sure this router can automatically measure more than that.
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For me, it is repeatable every time. :( I was thinking on using manual uplink speed, but like you said it changes. I don't want to hard-set it and have the possibility of hindering my speed.
For now, I am logging everything and it measures it correctly.
EDIT: XS, My ISP has the Speed Burst as well.
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Yes, we both have Cox as our ISP as well, I will test my router out and see if this happens to me since it is repeatable, hopefully tonight.
Anyway, I use manual now and I get much better results, see my original post as to why.
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I also noted that when I was troubleshooting going back and forth, I would check Automatic Upload Speed, and hit save, it would ask on that page to reboot the server. Once it would come back up, it would still say Unknown, and not show up in the log. I tried to reboot it from: TOOLS -> SYSTEM -> REBOOT THE DEVICE for it to actually 'reset' and perform the measure. **Shrugs**
Yea, I read your post that you are better off setting it static, which I will probably follow suit as well.
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Try setting a manual 6144 since you have a 5MbUP link.
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Try setting a manual 6144 since you have a 5MbUP link.
I have to admit I never run speed tests specifically to test which setting is better. I will do this later on and report my findings. I just saw that when I had it checked, it would say Unknown. That's when I started to troubleshoot, which I then included Informational in the log.
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I run several speed checks, pingtests daily ,lol. it annoys the heck out my wife :o
Good find on the informational option in the logs.
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I run several speed checks, pingtests daily ,lol. it annoys the heck out my wife :o
I bug my Fiance when I perform a change which requires to reboot the 4500, ROFL.. She's like, "Again?" I giggle and reply, "Yes hun. One more time! Don't refresh your Facebook page just yet!!" Hahahah!!
Gotta love us who tweak every setting to make the network running/staying at peak performance. :-\
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So, it seems it really doesn't make a difference if I set it to automatic, or static. But, I did get this error message in the logs. Not sure what that means tho..
Tue Mar 13 20:32:37 2012 WAN interface speed measurement aborted as they did not converge
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Ok, here is a funny story. :D
So last night I logged into my router, unchecked informational in the logs, hit apply and then checked the auto uplink speed, saved the settings and rebooted the router. When I logged into the router I checked up uplink speed and it was set at 8122 (8meg)!! Remember I get 2-4 meg upload. I reset my router again and this time the uplink speed was set to 9123!! So my router is working correctly, might be a bug on yours frag.
I am like what the heck, how is having informational logs checked have anything to do with upload speed??? lol.
Anyway I then logged into my modem and noticed the downstream was now bonding to 8 channels!!!!!! ;D Before it was only 4 channels. However my upstream is still only one channel. Any idea why bonding to 8 downstream channels is doubling my upload speed?
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XS,
Thank you for checking on yours. I haven't touched the firmware at all. Let me try another reset to factory defaults to see if I can get it working correctly..
Since you are getting such a high upload, I would leave it on auto.. Enjoy that faster upload!!!! ;D
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Ya, I wish I has the UP load speed. >:(
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Yeah I doubt it is a steady 8 meg though, I am sure most of it is all powerburst. Anyway I am not complaining and I will take it for now. I hope its not short lived! Too bad now I have to run more upload speed tests, my wife will be thrilled about it. :o
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I wouldn't go over board with tests man. There just informational. Just enjoy it. ;)
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Looks like I am going to call tech support and get it RMA'd since it's still under the 1-year warranty. Time to pull out the (slower) emg Linksys running DD-WRT. :'(
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What happens if you reload code using the FW update sticky process Frag?
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I don't know. I haven't tried. I didn't think the 4500 would let me re-load the firmware.
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FYI, you can always reload code, you can even go back to v1.21, just can't down grade beyond that version.
Let us know how the reload goes and if it still exhibits this.
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Sweet!! I *hope* re-loading the firmware will fix this! ;D I will get it done once I am home. During troubleshooting from work, I accidentally pressed the "Release" button. . . ::)
DOH!! Can't perform this from work.
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:D
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So, I re-loaded the firmware and loaded my config back up. It's still acting the same(Unknown). :( BUT, it doesn't seem to effect the wired/wireless setting.
Should I still get it RMA'd (I have 6 more months of warranty left)?
Wireless speed:
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1834585218.png)
Wired speed:
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1834595564.png)
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What happens if you reload code and dont load the saved config from file and configure from scratch.
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I am greeted with the same error. >:(
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I wouldn't go over board with tests man. There just informational. Just enjoy it. ;)
I should have taken your advice, ran some tests at myconnection server for quality and my upload consistency dropped from 85-95% to 20-30% :-[ I am not sure why, hopefully it was something on their end.
However my download consistency of service went up from 60% to 90%.
Whats up with that?
Anyway, Frag my router still shows uplink speed in auto even after a few more resets, if you can't fix it, I would send it back.
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Sorry to hear about your upload dropping like that. It seems they are changing something on their end (Hopefully it won't last long). >:(
But, if you don't run a server/host games from your home, I wouldn't worry too much about it. I would rather care about the D/L speed, which they did increase.. :)
I am thinking the same thing, XS. I will probably contact technical support after work today to get an RMA started..
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Sorry to hear about your upload dropping like that. It seems they are changing something on their end (Hopefully it won't last long). >:(
When you say "their end" are you referring to Cox or the servers at myconnection server? The reason I ask is because I was referring to the website not Cox. I know some of these test webites get screwing and give you bogus results sometimes.
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I was referring to Cox, but it could be the test site. :(
There are so many variables it's very hard to track down what's causing it.
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hmm, okay so I logged into my account at speedtest.net and DSL reports to pull up my test history and I noticed that my IP address changed since bonding to 8 channels.
is this normal? that I have a new IP address from Cox???
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Have you guys tried this one?
Visualware (http://myspeed.visualware.com/index.php)
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IP addresses from your ISP will change. Frequency of the changes depends on the ISP change policy.
hmm, okay so I logged into my account at speedtest.net and DSL reports to pull up my test history and I noticed that my IP address changed since bonding to 8 channels.
is this normal? that I have a new IP address from Cox???
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Have you guys tried this one?
Visualware (http://myspeed.visualware.com/index.php)
Yeah that's the website I was talking about and thanks for the reply on the IP address change, I was like WTF? :o
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Have you guys tried this one?
Visualware (http://myspeed.visualware.com/index.php)
I haven't tried that one, but will when I get home.
hmm, okay so I logged into my account at speedtest.net and DSL reports to pull up my test history and I noticed that my IP address changed since bonding to 8 channels.
is this normal? that I have a new IP address from Cox???
I noticed that when I was working on my 4500 yesterday, my IP changed as well.. ::) Oh well, such is life. That's why I use DynDNS.
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I noticed when I run a line quality check at DSL reports my first hop ping is not measurable any more and it is pinging a different IP.
Before my first hop ping would be to Chandler AZ, 68.2.2.94 but now my first hope ping is located in Wichita Kansas, 184.178.205.109.
What is the deal here???
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IPs should only change maybe once every other month or 3 months. At least it's what I've seen on my ISP.
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I might call the ISP and ask them about this. See if there noticing anything unusual about your line. This could be causing an issue while gaming.
I noticed when I run a line quality check at DSL reports my first hop ping is not measurable any more and it is pinging a different IP.
Before my first hop ping would be to Chandler AZ, 68.2.2.94 but now my first hope ping is located in Wichita Kansas, 184.178.205.109.
What is the deal here???
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Before my first hop ping would be to Chandler AZ, 68.2.2.94 but now my first hope ping is located in Wichita Kansas, 184.178.205.109.
What is the deal here???
I agree with Furry. That's something to call up and ask. That's a far geographical difference in hops.. >:(
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Ok, thanks guys, I will run a tracert and ping plotter when I get home so I can see exactly what is going on. The only bad news I have been seeing lag for over a week now and this first hop ping just started happening when my IP address changed.
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Lets review your router settings too.
I would also ask for a new modem from your ISP or maybe get one of your own if your only using the modem for internet. ;)
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With auto uplink enabled:
(http://speedtest.net/result/1836888374.png)
I pay for 2 meg upload but with powerboost I was getting 4meg up but since the 8 channel bonding and new IP address I get this! Since then when running that myconnection server line quality test my upload consistency dropped to 20-30%!
So last night I disabled auto uplink and entered 2048. Ran those same tests and my uplink consistency of service is 85-96%!!!
The more experience I get with powerboost the more I don't like it. I think it screws with QoS and is inconsistent to say the least.
So I will keep the manual uplink speed checked for now on.
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Here was I saw last nite: 50Down-2Up /cable/ SB 6180.
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/furrynutz740il/DGL-4500A1v123AutoUplink.png)
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Hey Fur,
What results do get when you run the line quality test on that visualware website you posted a link to? Upload consistency and overall?
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Here is a sample taken from my wired Mac to the back of the 4500:
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/furrynutz740il/VW1.png)
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/furrynutz740il/VW2.png)
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/furrynutz740il/VW3.png)
I notice that speed results differ from speedtest.net. I presume there is a reason. ???
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1838679148.png)
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/furrynutz740il/VW4.png)
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/furrynutz740il/VW5.png)
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/furrynutz740il/VW6.png)
Not how reliable this data is as it's evening time here and im sure having the evening croud online after work could be effecting things too. Just a quick sample for now I guess.
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Hey Frag,
When running tests last night, I changed my uplink to auto and when I checked it said "unknown". I am wondering if 10,000 kbps is max and will come up as unknown if it reaches that speed???
Anyway, I wanted to see if auto uplink speed was the cause for my upload consistency to drop to 20% and sure enough it was!!! I still have to play some games to see if its any better, but here are the results with my manual uplink speed set to 2560.
(https://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1psAFHVXxhBt3pavEgd93PbWha_4L44E1ifV_-AD-ftWKK47PnzTsrpVlNkpIpzKcBNfOChBX1dlEwfGG1-h0T5w/test.JPG?psid=1)
(https://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pfCCyvofNA5iVjxrrb0ZtRDiO4vFl-A2ZBnvOhDvrCxvzvHmZpCa_4-OieKiqL3c_rbpheBTIe_7-_Y1MPIEfTg/test2.JPG?psid=1)
(https://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pJFGmSjseQtQKGcPaTebOmpHq94TjmMU3VgegP7FlbSBkcgSoRAuqpfHVi9w84pyya3Nb61yXBlfTf47kxToe6A/test1.JPG?psid=1)
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Here are my reults when using Manual 4096 and Detect set to Cable, wired Mac to the 4500 A1 v1.23NA:
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/furrynutz740il/VW5-1.png)
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/furrynutz740il/VW6-1.png)
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa396/furrynutz740il/VW7.png)
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XS,
Interesting. But, it has worked for you in the past tho when you set it to auto. It was higher then 1k.. **Shrugs** I have mine hard-set at 6144.
Here is my Cox download/upload test. These tests will differ, since when we use the Cox site, it stays in the Cox network.
When I use Speedtest.net, I hit the server(s) in Switch, which is located here in Las Vegas, but I might travel outside of the state. I *wish* I knew the server IP address so I can do a tracert.
Oh well.
My connection is a little bit slower today (Wireless). I'm sure that's due to being the weekend. I'm still OK with it. When my speed drops, it stays above with what I am paying for. When it's faster, it's a nice bonus.
I am going to get on wired and run another speed test to see where I'm at, and I will hook up directly to the modem (For giggles and grins).. :)
(http://www.robotreviews.com/sites/default/files/images/cox_d-l_speed.jpg)
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Very interesting results I may say. First off, I know the weekend has something to do with the lower speed.
This is hard-wired to the 4500:
(http://www.robotreviews.com/sites/default/files/images/cox_wired.jpg)
This is me directly plugged into the modem (**Shrugs**):
(http://www.robotreviews.com/sites/default/files/images/cox_wired_directly_to_modem.jpg)
And, this is me directly plugged into the modem, but running it at speedtest.net:
(http://www.speedtest.net/result/1840351331.png)
Theoretically, the Cox speed test should be more accurate, and faster than the speedtest.net one. But, they aren't.
Oh well, everything still runs fine on the network, and our speed is still fast, regardless of this..
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Fragg,
Oops my bad I forgot a 0, I meant 10k!
Are those results from this website?
http://test.lvcm.com/ (http://test.lvcm.com/)
AZ has a different website for their customers but every state should
"It can be accessed through "interent tools" on the Cox website. Note that this requires log in via your Cox username and password."
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XS,
Yes, that is the URL I go to. I didn't get it from Cox website. When they were over here last, he brought it up on my laptop to run a check. Once he left, I searched the history so I could pull it up again, and then bookmarked it. ;)
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If you have a Resi Cox connection, your better off signing into Cox's internet tools and running the test from there. Not only will you likly get a closer server, but those results are actually logged so Cox can review them. Makes it useful so you can run a test when its slow, and Cox can look at signal levels to the modem around that time.
As for the different between Visualware and Speedtest, Speedtest isn't actually a...well speedtest. Its a capacity test. It looks at the transfer rate for the first session. A capacity test runs longer and takes a average of all the sessions. Thats why the visualware results are "43.7 of 80". 80 is the Max performance you reached, while 43.7 is your general performance.
I read a post somewhere on here that past a certain upload, management is pointless in most cased. I will find it and post it.
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Harry, do my results look ok then? Im curious if they are fairly accurate.
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If you have a Resi Cox connection, your better off signing into Cox's internet tools and running the test from there. Not only will you likly get a closer server, but those results are actually logged so Cox can review them. Makes it useful so you can run a test when its slow, and Cox can look at signal levels to the modem around that time.
HH,
That's great information to know. I will for now on. Thank you. :)
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Harry, do my results look ok then? Im curious if they are fairly accurate.
Yea, they look good. Looks like there isn't too much congestion in your area, but I also don't know what time of day that test is from, so I could be mistaken. Your upload is a bit on the low side, but don't think that has anything to with your router, or even anything you can fix. Its probably just what the infrastructure in your area is capable of. I assume their highest plan has a capped upload of about 4-5Mb? Usally you see upload jump in stages as they put more modern equipment in your part of town. Alot of it is just role of the dice.
To tell your the truth, I turned off gamefuel after doing some testing. When I am gaming..that is usually all I am doing on my network, since I live alone. In that case, gamefuel is only going to slow me down. Maybe not much, but its just one more thing the router has to manage, so if you don't need it, why have it? Now if your in a household with 2 people browsing facebook, one watching youtube, another watching netflix and your gaming, then yes, Gamefuel can help alot. If not...::shrug:: I just don't see the point.
Now if ISP start recognizing QoS flags on packets and treating the traffic accordingly..then Gamefuel will be worth its weight in gold. Hmmmmmmm....
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Yea, they look good. Looks like there isn't too much congestion in your area, but I also don't know what time of day that test is from, so I could be mistaken. Your upload is a bit on the low side, but don't think that has anything to with your router, or even anything you can fix. Its probably just what the infrastructure in your area is capable of. I assume their highest plan has a capped upload of about 4-5Mb? Usally you see upload jump in stages as they put more modern equipment in your part of town. Alot of it is just role of the dice.
The time frame of this test was 4-5pm. I only get 50/2 on the cable so not sure if I'd see anything above that. Fortunately I live in a area with only a few, less than maybe 10 users i believe on the same system.
To tell your the truth, I turned off gamefuel after doing some testing. When I am gaming..that is usually all I am doing on my network, since I live alone. In that case, gamefuel is only going to slow me down. Maybe not much, but its just one more thing the router has to manage, so if you don't need it, why have it? Now if your in a household with 2 people browsing facebook, one watching youtube, another watching netflix and your gaming, then yes, Gamefuel can help alot. If not...::shrug:: I just don't see the point.
I did test out the 4500 using default settings accept for WiFI, Reservations and etc. Gaming seemed ok, however I noticed that I only got 3 bars on MW3. Gaming seemed ok however just not as good as after when I turned on GF and set up a rule. I too am the only one with a xbox now. However it seems way better having it ON and a rule set up for XBL. I get full bars. Even with the new TEW-687GA adapter. ;D
Now if ISP start recognizing QoS flags on packets and treating the traffic accordingly..then Gamefuel will be worth its weight in gold. Hmmmmmmm....Anything is possible.
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Well the "bars" is just a measure of latency. Imagine your connecting through a server at point B, and your at point A. The traffic has to go from console to router, router to modem, modem to Node, node to CMTS, CMTS to backbone, or 1 to 2 to 3 to 4, etc. Latency from A to B may go up even if nothing 1 to 3 changed. Or something 1 to 3 may get worst, but since something from 4-6 got better, you don't notice it. What is worst, the bars are relative to those connected to the server, but not relative to those around you. So you may be connecting to a server on the other side of the country. Everyone else is on West Coast, your east coast. They have 4 bars, you have 3. Thats what happens when you take 6 years of network engineering and try to squeeze into one icon, its worth it's weight in salt.
As for your upload..odd. If you get 50 down, they must have a 1Ghz plant..why such a small upload. Oh well. As you can see by your experiences, total bandwidth is not all that important.
As for the QoS flags...we need to have a fun little talk. Hit me up next time your online.
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Thanks for the info HH! I always wondered what the deal was with speedtest.net.
Anyway whats the deal with my test having Dup acks: 62?
When I run Cox speed test, everything looks good! speed and latency.
All I know about the "bars" is I lag if I have one and I lag if I have four, I think there just there for the heck of it! :o