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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => Routers / COVR => DIR-825 => Topic started by: Jef on April 04, 2009, 09:05:43 AM
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Is the B1 hardware revision released and availiable for purchase? I heard there was a B1, but all I can find in retail stores are the A1.
What will the differences be? Will the featureset be the same, and is just a different chipset?
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rev B is in the works but don't have an ETA on when it will be released. From what I hear it's not going to be Ubicom and will be open source
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Does this mean that the B rev will support third-party firmware?
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rev B is in the works but don't have an ETA on when it will be released. From what I hear it's not going to be Ubicom and will be open source
Any update on the 825 revB? I desperately need to upgrade from my 625 A1, which is on it's way out?
OT: I see your sig, how does one join the D-Link L4D clan?
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Sgnl,
Rev B must be available someplace. When D-link posted the firmware Beta update there was a version for the A and a different one for the B. The instructions were very specific about using the correct one for whichever router you had.
Cheers
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Any update on the 825 revB? I desperately need to upgrade from my 625 A1, which is on it's way out?
OT: I see your sig, how does one join the D-Link L4D clan?
+1 looking for release date
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Sgnl,
Rev B must be available someplace. When D-link posted the firmware Beta update there was a version for the A and a different one for the B. The instructions were very specific about using the correct one for whichever router you had.
Cheers
Gadget,
I've checked everywhere and can't seemed to find it....must be vaporware at this point????
I really wish someone from D-Link could confirm/deny if B1 even exists/is available for purchase as of 5/21/09. ???
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No it's not available for purchase yet. It's not vapor ware, I have one in my hands.
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No it's not available for purchase yet. It's not vapor ware, I have one in my hands.
Well, just I called sales and they confirmed that it IS available....
Only problem is that they won't promise that I'll receive one
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In my admin screen it says B1, firmware 2.00EU
Anyone know if this is because I'm in Europe?
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I just ordered one today from newegg.com. I will see which version they are sending out to me when I get it. I doubt it will be a B1 version but am hoping. I will be okay with receiving an A1 since it has a really good review as a high speed throughput rating and gigbit switch supporting jumbo frames. So I can always use it as my main gateway as a wired router.
On an aside note, my observations:
I suspect that the complaints on the poor wireless range on this unit (and its big brother the DIR-855) is the crummy dual band antennas they use on these "dual-band" routers. Instead of having separate 2.4Ghz antenna runs and 5Ghz antenna run paths, they chose to hyrid the two bands sandwiched into one stick antenna. Not good. Not good. As I am sure that that design is a very poor efficiency rating to send out the RF signals due to the interacting interference factors of having two separate RF transmitter bands so close together. Must wreak havoc on the RF SWR and most definitely is attenuating the maximum capability that the DIR-8x5 units can muster up. Look to see if we all can replace the antenna's with separate runs for each band. It will increase the wireless range for sure. FYI.
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I just ordered one today from newegg.com. I will see which version they are sending out to me when I get it. I doubt it will be a B1 version but am hoping. I will be okay with receiving an A1 since it has a really good review as a high speed throughput rating and gigbit switch supporting jumbo frames. So I can always use it as my main gateway as a wired router.
On an aside note, my observations:
I suspect that the complaints on the poor wireless range on this unit (and its big brother the DIR-855) is the crummy dual band antennas they use on these "dual-band" routers. Instead of having separate 2.4Ghz antenna runs and 5Ghz antenna run paths, they chose to hyrid the two bands sandwiched into one stick antenna. Not good. Not good. As I am sure that that design is a very poor efficiency rating to send out the RF signals due to the interacting interference factors of having two separate RF transmitter bands so close together. Must wreak havoc on the RF SWR and most definitely is attenuating the maximum capability that the DIR-8x5 units can muster up. Look to see if we all can replace the antenna's with separate runs for each band. It will increase the wireless range for sure. FYI.
I bit the bullet as well, so far I'm very happy with my A1 1.01. My wireless range has been decent so far, I don't understand what all the fuss is about.
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agreed, i like mine so far!
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I received my new DIR-825 today from newegg.com. It is a hardware version A1 with firmware 1.01. I have not cracked open the box yet, wondering if I should or not... with all these buggy firmwares that Dlink developers are putting out these days. It makes me worried that we have no quality developers at work at Dlink anymore. Someone is not doing their job(s) at Dlink to release untested buggy firmwares.
I will not attempt to upgrade to the latest 1.11 firmware on my DIR-825 until they put out a verified stable update. The DNS Relay bug in all these Dlink router firmwares is a quirk they need to really work on too. I cannot believe that they have not fixed it yet. I won't have a chance to put this router through its paces yet as I am testing out a Linksys WRVS4400N VPN Gigabit wireless N router right now installed as my main gateway...! Having fun.
Dlink get to work!
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In my admin screen it says B1, firmware 2.00EU
Anyone know if this is because I'm in Europe?
I have also B1 with 2.00EU. My device was bought from Finland.
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Mine also, B1 2.00EU. I'm in the UK.
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Is it possible to get some specs regarding this new model?
One thing that was nice about 825 was the 350Mhz Ubicom chip gave great routing performance. Is this model now going to be based on Broadcom stuff? How fast is the chip? The fasted Broadcom dual band I know of on the market is 300Mhz. Why the change in chips? Seems like a pretty big deal to switch the platform in a hardware revision.
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It's actually a very common procedure. The 655 has two different switch models and 2 different AP's among the 4 revisions.
As for the NAT operating at a slower speed, I can't comment, but I'm sure the product will perform to expectations.
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It's actually a very common procedure. The 655 has two different switch models and 2 different AP's among the 4 revisions.
As for the NAT operating at a slower speed, I can't comment, but I'm sure the product will perform to expectations.
Right, but AFAIK, all the 655 revisions still use the Ubicom IP5160U. My point was that it seems strange to change the CPU the router is based on (versus just changing the radio or switch).
I guess we will have to wait for some to open it up to see whats inside.
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Again, it's just as common. The 615 is 3 different vendors among the 3 revisions.
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Any updates on the availability of the new revision? I just checked bunch of electronics retailers in the New York city area and came up empty:
* J&R: Rev A1 only, checked in store.
* Datavision: Special order only, does not guarantee revisions. Checked in store.
* Best Buy: Out of stock at all New York locations according to website.
* Staples: Doesn't stock it, checked website and several locations.
* Officemax: Doesn't stock it according to website.
* Compusa: Doesn't stock it according to website.
* PC Richard and Son: Doesn't stock it according to website.
* Radioshack: Doesn't stock it at several locations.
I also pinged Newegg sales staff, who gave their stock answer that they typically carry the latest revision available, but can't check revs on their current stock and can't promise one revision or another. In this thread and in their customer reviews, there's confirmation that they were still shipping A1's as of about a month ago and no updates since.
Has anyone found a source for B1 units? I've never seen a vendor firmware I liked as much as openwrt, and if there's a chance that the new hardware will be supported at some point that's a significant differentiator for me. On the other hand, I'd really like to upgrade in the next 30 days or so... so if there isn't any availability I may have to suck it up and settle for the current hardware available.
Thanks,
Mike Lococo
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Bought mine from Newegg on June 13th and it is a B1.
July 6,
Returned the router due to continuous dropping of internet connection. Spoke to level 3 support, who advised that this was a known issue and until there is revised firmware there was nothing they could do to stop the connection being dropped. They suggested that I try to swap it for an A1 version :'(
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Bought mine from Newegg on June 13th and it is a B1.
Thanks for the update thame555. I placed an order a few minutes ago and will report back when I receive the unit next week.
- Mike
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So I had my A1 RMA'd and got a B1 in return. At this point I wish I kept my A1. I'm no longer having router lock-up issues that the A1 had with the 1.11NA, but now my WAN(internet connection) is frequently getting disconnected with the B1 model 2.00NA.
Here's what I've noticed so far when issue occurs:
-Still able to log into the router and also see my WAN IP(not sure if it's there because it hasn't erased yet, or might still really be connected)
-Happens when I use my hard-wired computer. My wireless dosen't have a problem(until the hard wired computer blows up the router, then none of the computers can connect to internet, but are still able to log into router).
-Sometimes after a minute or so, the router might go back to it's normal state until I try to start browsing on the computer that's hard wired. Sometimes I might have to reset the router.
I've heard of a few people having the same issue along the line of frequent internet disconnects with the 825 B1 revision. Is this something that can be fixed with a future firmware update?
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I got my B1 at Fry's in Austin, TX on the 7th. Unfortunately my wired lan port keeps hanging. This disrupts my wireless users as well since I am running DNS on my server to deal with the missing loopback NAT support.
Very frustrated. I'm concerned the dropped wired connections could be hardware, and not even openwrt could save this router.
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??? Holy clap, here I was saddened that I got a DIR-825 revision A1 from newegg.com not too long ago... and now I am reading that the hardware revision B1 that I was hoping to get is bugged out more than the A1 version. Holy clap (replace letter L with r in clap to get real meaning ;) )
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So I had my A1 RMA'd and got a B1 in return. At this point I wish I kept my A1. I'm no longer having router lock-up issues that the A1 had with the 1.11NA, but now my WAN(internet connection) is frequently getting disconnected with the B1 model 2.00NA.
Here's what I've noticed so far when issue occurs:
-Still able to log into the router and also see my WAN IP(not sure if it's there because it hasn't erased yet, or might still really be connected)
-Happens when I use my hard-wired computer. My wireless dosen't have a problem(until the hard wired computer blows up the router, then none of the computers can connect to internet, but are still able to log into router).
-Sometimes after a minute or so, the router might go back to it's normal state until I try to start browsing on the computer that's hard wired. Sometimes I might have to reset the router.
I've heard of a few people having the same issue along the line of frequent internet disconnects with the 825 B1 revision. Is this something that can be fixed with a future firmware update?
Same thing here, only when it starts happening to me, sometimes I can't even connect TO the router, although I can connect to other hard-wired computers THROUGH the router...
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Did you guys try to upgrade the firmware to 2.02?
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I just installed 2.02NA and all seems well so far. No WAN drops and no intermittent Router blackouts yet... of course it has only been a few hours :). No matter what, the new Firmware is MUCH better than 2.0.
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I have also B1 with 2.00EU. My device was bought from Finland.
Same thing here and I live in Sweden, I bought it yesterday, can't flash it dough, it rejects the new firmware 2.02NA, bummer
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Same thing here and I live in Sweden, I bought it yesterday, can't flash it dough, it rejects the new firmware 2.02NA, bummer
ftp://ftp.dlink.de/dir/dir-825/driver_software/DIR-825_fw_revb_201EUb15_ALL_multi_20090612.zip
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ftp://ftp.dlink.co.uk/dir_products/dir-825/DIR-825EU_B1_Beta.zip
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Made the mistake of upgrading my A1 to firmware 1.11. Wireless connection would drop every 15 to 30 sec. Returned it and got a rev. B1. Wireless connection seems stable. WAN connection did seem to drop every once in a while, installed firmware 2.02 and so far it seems to have fixed that issue but only time will tell. I also prefer tthe look of the B1. The front panel is much easier to read.
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i'm noticing that QOS is not that great on the B1. My TMobile Blackberry 8900 with UMA drops audio now and then when using with the 825 B1. QOS engine is enabled.
Pretty much the same settings on a 655 with V1.11 and the phone works much, much better. Think that Dlink still has some work to do on their own QOS engine.