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[Mogres]

idk if the pm got to you or not

and how will i know your on?

[FurryNutz]

Got 4500 on to Modems DMZ. Need to get Mine Craft Server configured now.

[XS]

Is port triggering safe to use under application rules?

[FurryNutz]

I would presume it's as safe as any other feature. Just need to figure out what is needed for it to be used is all. I would not recommend it for gaming. I would presume that PT might not have the performance capabilities to keep up with that kind of operation. I presume that applications that only need some form of intermittent connection would PT be a good option. I haven't used it much if at all. QoS seems to handle my needs. 

[XS]

Thanks for the reply Fur, the reason I was wondering because I decided to try out port triggering for my two Xbox's on ports 3074 (both) and port 88UDP the other day. 
I only have been able to get a few games in so far and I have to say those games have been some of the best connection games I have edxperienced in MW3.  My son has alos noticed a difference for the better.  However it is too soon to tell and could be coincedence.  Anyway I just don't want to leave my self opened to get hacked.

[FurryNutz]

Let us know how that does. Might be a good alternative to test out for xbox. Game consoles aren't generally known for getting hacked. It's the accounts that get hacked.  I had mine hacked last year. 

[XS]

Ugh, no good man!  I hate hackers.  Anyway, if what I read how port triggering works on multiple consoles is that you have to open the ports listed for everything on your network since there is no entry for a specific IP address under "special applications".  Does this sound correct?
FYI, I am still using game fuel too.

[FurryNutz]

Yes thats right. Maybe you can post a screen capture of how you have that set up? 

[XS]

Yeah no problem but it may be awhile to get the screen shot, I am at work.
Anyway here are the links that got me thinking and how to do it.

http://www.pcwintech.com/node/681

And this post but I kept your settings for game fuel and only added ports 3074 and 88 since from what I have read the other ports do not need any type of port forwading/triggering.

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=713469

Anyway, just trying new things out.  I have never had any NAT issues what so ever with this router, I am just tired of lagging in MW3.  

[FurryNutz]

I know and even though we can try to eliminate as much lag on these routers, there will always be some form of LAG as others we play with are probably not generally setting up there routers or doing any tweeking to make sure they are working well as we do.

I would like or you to test with out port 88. Thats not a high bandwidth or high priority port and is only intermittently used. Just 3074 seems to be the most important one. Let us know what the results are. I'll give this a try this weekend and see.

[XS]

Will do man, Yeah I think port 88 is only for voice however MS recommends you forward this port if you are having NAT issues and my NAT is always open.

Hopefully I will be able to get some game time in this weekend to know for sure.  I am sure my son will so I could always ask him if he still notices a difference.

[FurryNutz]

WE should SIR. 

[XS]

Okay, sorry for the delay, but here are the screen shots.  I also added my screen shot of Game fuel since I have been playing around with priority settings too, since I thought priority 1 was too high so I went back to Furry original settings (close to).

Furry, have you tried out port triggering yet? If so any feedback?  Do you or anyone else know what port 53 (DNS) is used for?


Anyway, I definitely notice a difference since making these changes with lag and hit detection, even my son noticed it and said "Dad, I don't know why am I doing so good lately." lol.
Both of our KDR has gone up slightly in TDM over the weekend so I happy with the results so far.



Gamefuel


Can everyone see the screenshots?  If not let me know.

[FurryNutz]

I did get a chance to test it out for one night. Not sure if I saw any changes and however conditions that night seemed laggy, possibly due to other users. I noticed at one point I had one red bar in MW3.  then it all came back. I haven't had a chance to continue as I've changed routers for testing.  I'll come back to this though and let you know as I do want to see if PT will help out more. If so then we'll update the sticky. 

[XS]

Hmm, I may have spoke to soon about PT, I decided to pull actual real data using the COD Elite website.  I know its not 100% accurate but at least its something.  I could only go back to 1/31 and I turned on PT on 2/1.
Anyway, I pulled my sons and my combat record and compared stats pre and post PT.  His KDR went up +.073 and mine actually went down -.061.

I am thinking the improvement I saw has more to do with the changes I made to the Gamefuel rules.  I added ports 88 and 80 to the list, changed port 3074 priority from a 1 to 30 and port 53 from a 1 to 40.
I made these changes to GF a day or two before enabling port triggering so I may have confused the two.

Anyway, just wanted to share more accurate feedback and I think I may disable port triggering and see there are any changes in game play.  This time I will be more diligent on actual data instead of going off of feelings.