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[XS]

Sounds good Fur, yeah I have been reading some reviews on the DGL-4300 since I have yet to find a review that goes into detail about Game fuel on the 4500.

Anyway, I am starting to come to the conclusion that GF was only ever intended for use with ISP's with real slow upload speed <768k???  Probably why D-link stopped using the GF technology in their newer routers since with today's ISP's offering faster upload speeds its not needed anymore.

More testing.........................

[FurryNutz]

Well I managed to play a couple of games before having ot hop off and work on my bike yesterday.
I set up the 4500 and disabled GF entirely and just set up PT for 3074. Had full bars and gaming was pretty good even though my first game was yucky on my behalf. LOL. I'll try and get on more tonight and play more. Again, I feel this work well for single xbox set ups. Multi xbox, probably not so much.   

[XS]

Router set up:
No manual GF rules.
Manual up link speed set to 4096.
Auto classification: Enabled.
Dynamic fragmentation:  Disabled.

With my router configured this way I have only been able to get couple of games in the last two nights or so but just to provide a little feedback....

All games were TDM.
Game 1:  On Resistance, lag was pretty bad, started the match 0-5 and finished 8-8.  Could not win a gunfight only way to get kills was to play defensively. -no fun

Game 2:  On Mission,  Connection was really good, no complaints.  This is how the game should play, I finished 16-10 and it was a close game 7500-6800 so hopefully the other team was not lagging.

Now for last night.
Game 1: On Black Box, connection was questionable because how the way the game went down, I could not tell if there was lag or not since there were really no gunfights.  The other team were mostly snipers and game play was very slow.  I kept getting sniped across the map and finished 7-10.  

Game 2:  On Dome, I pull host and was lagging real bad, could not win a gun fight even if I shot half a clip at someone first !  Horrible, it was so bad I don't know what I would have finished because I just quit and said I am done playing for tonight!  If I had to take a guess 5-15???

Anyway, I think I need to face reality and know there isn't anything I can do and there isn't some magic setting on this router that is going to make a difference!

When I do good I always wonder is it because the other team is lagging or my skill?   To be honest, I don't know anymore.  I think this game is 90% connection and 10% skill, how sad.
 
I am losing hope for this game real fast, I spent $100 on the hardened edition and I would like to get my money's worth so I am hoping IW next update fixes lag compensation or matchmaking.  If not Black Ops here I come!

Anyway how is everyone else gaming experience?

[FurryNutz]

We need to play XS. Im still using Just PT only, All GF and other stuff is OFF. Single xbox. NAT to Endpoint on both.

Also, interested in trying out a different router to see if you get the same results?

[XS]

Fur,

So you are not seeing much lag?
Yeah I need to find some to get games in, you play mostly at night, correct?

I have really linksys router but I am sure it worse than the 4500, I am pretty sure its just the game that's messed up.

[FurryNutz]

Play in evenings and night and on weekends during the day if i'm not doing anything else.
I see some lag here and there. I feel thats due to other players in the game. The people I play with have pretty good UP and Down ISPs or there running the 4500. I know your trying to find more time to play too.

[XS]

Ok, well I have some good news but I am waiting to hear back from Cox to see what changed but my internet has been running the best it ever has since 3/24.  Anyway I will post an update with more details when I hear back from my ISP.

I did notice some lag when someone is surfing the internet the other day, maybe coincednce but who knows. Anyway if this truly the case and if I wanted to set up manual game rules what do you think is best?

1. Just add one manual GF rule for my PC's and set it to 200?
2. Just set up GF rules for my XBL ports and set it to a lower priority than 128? like 30? (No GF rule for PC's).
3. Just leave auto classification, no manual GF rules?

When using manual GF rules for everything, should auto classification be on or off???

[FurryNutz]

I used 200 for my PCs. 
I had auto classification ON at the the time. I'd test what works best for you.

Keep us posted on the ISP. I was wondering about them.

[XS]

Well well well...... So Cox got back to me and no maintenance or changes were done to my line in the past week. So with being said, could this really be the cause of my issues in MW3?  Why not black Ops? Please read on......

Short story:  My modem was getting too warm!

Long story:
So it has always bothered me where the Cox "cable guy"  installed my DPQ-3212 Modem because he installed it in my structured wiring panel where there is no airflow! However since I was nervous about this I would check it after heavy gaming or internet usage.  It definitely felt warm to the touch, with the 9 db attenuator on the back of it being the warmest.  I thought the temperature of it was acceptable and figured if it was going to cause issues, Cox would have never installed it there and boy was I wrong!

So last Saturday, (3/24) I decided to remove the front cover of my panel and temporarily mounted the modem to the wall, I will let the results speak for themselves. 

Here are screen shots from ping test before and after 3/24.


Pingtest the last couple of days!



My ping has never been this stable before, even while heavy internet usage or at peak times ping stays pretty much the same when running these test.  Before 3/24, if someone was using the internet and I ran a pingtest, I would be lucky to get a "B" rating!

As for gaming, huge improvement!  Very little lag with my router set up the same as my above post.  Since I did notice some lag when someone was using the internet, I enabled my manual GF rules and PC rules with auto classification off.  I will see how it goes!

So is this really possible, that was my modem getting too warm and causing erratic pings or just coincidence?

[FurryNutz]

How interesting, modem performance effected by temperature possible.
I would test this out for a few days then go back and put the modem in the original spot and test again then you'll know.

Any chance of you testing a SB 6 series modem out?  

Keep us posted on how this new placement works for you.

[XS]

Yeah I was questioning it too Fur and that is one of the reasons I waited four days to update this thread.  I have that Cisco eMTA modem.  Maybe that 9Db attentutor does not like to get hot, who knows but I am not complaining!

This is what I am talking about if you are wondering:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20268250-AZ-What-is-this-thing[/url]

[FurryNutz]

And you removed that or is it still connected? What happens if you leave it off then put it back on? 

[XS]

Yeah I removed it but my modem levels are better with it installed so I put it back on.

[FurryNutz]

Possible on reason it's installed is that signal levels are higher for your area thus a need for attenuating some of that to bring the levels into a better acceptable range for the modem.

Lets play sometime soon. 

Keep us posted.

[XS]

Yeah sounds good, Cox has to have their levels in a certain spot or the tech will fail QC.

Anyway, tonight was lag city! I lasted three games before quitting for good.
It took while to log into XBL and my Xbox was loading everything real slow.  So hopefully that was the cause.  First match was way too glitchy, I could not even move with out getting motion sickness, everything got blurry when I tried moving, so I left and reset my Xbox.

2nd match was good halfway through and then couldn't win a gun fight.

3rd match, oh my, lag was horrific, I quit when I was 1-7 and that 1 kill was in final stand, wow! Something real weird going on in this match, one guy I literally shot almost a clip in him and got a ton of hit markers and then he disappeared and he blew me up with C4? A total of 7 people on my team quit that match and there was a total of 13 players on my team!  So everyone was lagging!

Anyway I hope something funky was going on tonight.
Right noe