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[FurryNutz]

try removing the entries and the 1st check box and re-test.

[DrunkJug]

will try that when I get in tonight.

[DrunkJug]

Havent done that test yet. BUT I played gears last night and after the usual messing about i got bith consoles to show Open NAT. Turned off the systems. Came home tonight fired up My daughters and sh had Open and about an hour later i decided to play as well. Fired up my XBOX. Moderate. Shut down rebooted console. Open.

This is lame.

[FurryNutz]

Let us know if you can do the DNS test again...

There has some thing to be going on there. Both boxes are wired to the back of the router? Swap cables to see if the problem travels?

We played for a couple of hours last night. Granted, ether xbox was not powered down during this time frame. Both boxes had OPEN NAT. I can attempt to see if leaving one xbox ON and turning on the other later on and see.

The only thing I can think of after this, reload FW, factory reset and set up from scratch. You need to set the IP addresses ON the router to reserved for the xboxes and make sure they are setup  for automatic networking.

Let me know if I can help you with this again. Please try to get Name Bench testing done and we'll go from there.

[XS]

Why are you guys running namebench for a moderate NAT issues?  DNS servers will have no effect on NAT type.

[DrunkJug]

XS,

I don't know I am just going through all the steps that Furry thinks I need to do.

Do you have any idea why these ports are giving me such a hassle?

Furry,

Just ran the namebench test twice. It gave me different results each time

At any rate I do in fact have both XBOX consoles wired straight into the router. I have a D-link 8 port switch
hooked up for other stuff but made sure both XBOX consoles went into the router itself instead of into that switch.

[DrunkJug]

Man I am about to give up.

Reset router to factory defaults and went in and edited all information by hand (leaving out certain things that don't apply to gaming just to see if they were causing any interference) and same old problems.

Booted up one console NAT is open, booted up second NAT is moderate, reboot second console NAT is open.

This is a huge PITA and at this point I think this router is not what it is cracked up to be.

[XS]

This router should work out of the box fpr XBL with open NATs for all XBOX's.
So try this!
1.  On the router Restore all settings to the factory defaults.
2.  Set all devices on your network to auto obtain IP
3.  Reserve all IP address on router for each device.
3.  On firewall settings, set NAT ENDPOINT FILTERING to Endpoint Independent for TCP and UDP.
4.  Uncheck boxes for enable SPI and Enable anti-spoof checking if checked
5. APPLICATION LEVEL GATEWAY (ALG) CONFIGURATION: All checked.
6.  Under game fuel menu, enable GF, auto uplink and auto classification checked, dynamic unchecked.
7.  Select cable if you have cable or select DSL if you have DSL.

Save config at every prompt and then reset router when all finiished making changes.

Reset modem then router.

If still having NAT issues with no manual GF rules then I would suspect something going on with your modem.  IF all good after this then we can add some manual GF rules to your Xbox's.

[RocNrolla]

Man I am about to give up.

Reset router to factory defaults and went in and edited all information by hand (leaving out certain things that don't apple to gaming just to see if they were causing any interference) and same old problems.

Booted up one console NAT is open, booted up second NAT is moderate, reboot second console NAT is open.

This is a huge PITA and at this point I think this router is not what it is cracked up to be.

I was having the same issues with the Dir-857, I switched back to the 4500 doing a factory reset and reserving ip addresses on the 4500. All I have is Upnp enabled and I get open NAT on 3 Xbox's all the time. With the Dir-857 I was having the exact same issues as you are having with the 4500. Gamefuel didn't work for me either on the 857. One xbox would always have moderate NAt, as soon as I re-booted that xbox NAT would change to OPEN.

In my opinion... I believe your 4500 and modem are not playing nice with one another just like my DIR-857 wasn't playing nice with my modem (Cisco DPC3825 DOCSIS 3.0 Gateway)(in bridge  mode)

[FurryNutz]

XS, would you take a look at Drunkjugs router settings and go throught the motions to see if you can help him attain stable OPEN NAT on his xboxes? See if you can help him narrow down any configuration issues.

I am starting to wonder if there are some modem issues here. The only thing that I could think if is maybe the ISP. He and are currently running the same modem and 4500 HW. The only thing different is the ISP service. Possible there could be something going on with modem, modem FW or ISP service.


Drunkjug, the only thing i can suggest would be to either test both a different modem and router to see whats going on. I would say test the router at a different location however that would entail taking all xboxes too. Thats not a good thing. So I would go to your local store, some place that has a good refund policy and get a different router, try a DIR series router, something you can test for 30 days before you have to decide to keep or return it.

I would offer you to send me your 4500 during this time frame to see if our 4500 issues follow at a different location. I would like to help you eliminate and narrow down that root cause. I don't think the 4500 is at fault. One way to test this is at a different location. 

Your seeing some odd things going on there. Name Bench for me always seem to bring up the same 3 or 4 addresses doing a couple of tests. Didn't vary at all. Your seeing different addresses per each test? I might think something is going on there with that. If the ISP service and modem and lines are good, addresses should change, if they do, no much if at all.

Lets see what XS can do with a review.

[FurryNutz]

I wonder if there is a problem between the 857 and your ISP service and or modem Rolla? I have the 857 and use a Motorola modem here and haven't seen this issue when my 857 is online with 2 xboxes. Any chance you can test this out at a different location or have someone review our router settings with you?

I was having the same issues with the Dir-857, I switched back to the 4500 doing a factory reset and reserving ip addresses on the 4500. All I have is Upnp enabled and I get open NAT on 3 Xbox's all the time. With the Dir-857 I was having the exact same issues as you are having with the 4500. Gamefuel didn't work for me either on the 857. One xbox would always have moderate NAt, as soon as I re-booted that xbox NAT would change to OPEN.

In my opinion... I believe your 4500 and modem are not playing nice with one another just like my DIR-857 wasn't playing nice with my modem (Cisco DPC3825 DOCSIS 3.0 Gateway)(in bridge  mode)

[DrunkJug]

wow i posted earlier and it didn't show up 

I tried what XS said and guess what? It works!!!!!

I am thinking something on comcast doesn't like me using static IP's. That is the only difference going on here is that I am using DHCP with DHCP Reservations.

It is a PITA for me to reset up everything this way but  I DON"T CARE, IT IS WORKING!!!1

THANKS SO MUCH EVERYONE FOR THE HELP!

[FurryNutz]

Static IPs as using them on the xboxes? I Thought we had set up IP reservations on the router for these xboxes during my first visit? Just what to make sure we understand what you have configured. Glad it's working though. Finally! 

[DrunkJug]

No we never set up DHCP Reservations.

It is consistently working now !😄

[FurryNutz]

Awesome. Glad its working now. Enjoy. This problem is finally resolved. Yay.