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Author Topic: 30 or so days then I lose wifi devices  (Read 18315 times)

beano_face

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30 or so days then I lose wifi devices
« on: February 23, 2016, 02:53:58 PM »

Hello...

Not the exact same router... but almost the exact same problem. ..

Dir655: last couple months... every 15 - 20 days i have 1 device that wont aquire an ip address. Yesterday it was my wii U, 17 days b4 that it was my wifes phone. But other devices work fine... its very strange. The only way to get the device to aquire an ip address is to reboot the 655.

This is my favorite router, ive gone back to this one after trying a dir 860 and 827.

I just tried turning  off mac filtering.  Thinking maybe for some reason the 655 thinks this is one of the mac addresses i have blocked. I guess i will wait and see if it makes a difference.

The other thing i was gonna try was turning on the "always broadcast " in the dhcp settings

I have tried the usual stuff.. factory reset.. reloading FW...

Its not a big deal... but im in the same boat as radubn... once a router is setup properly... i think it should just run... and very rarely need to be rebooted.
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Re: 30 or so days then I lose wifi devices
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2016, 03:24:07 PM »

Link>Welcome!

  • What Hardware version is your router? Look at sticker under the router case.
  • Link>What Firmware version is currently loaded? Found on the routers web page under status.
  • What region are you located?
  • Are you wired or wireless connected to the router?
  • Has a Factory Reset been performed?
  • Was a Factory Reset performed before and after any firmware updates then set up from scratch?
  Link> >FW Update Process
  • Was the router working before any firmware updates?

Internet Service Provider and Modem Configurations
  • What ISP Service do you have? Cable or DSL?
  • What ISP Modem Mfr. and model # do you have?

Wireless Configurations
Links>Wireless Installation Considerations and Managing Signal Congestion and Good Neighbour Policy
  • What wireless modes are you using?
  • Try single mode G or N or mixed G and N?
  • Channel Width set for Auto 20/40Mhz or try 20Mhz only.
  • Try setting a manual Channel to a open or unused channel. 1, 6 or 11. 11 for single mode N if the channel is clear. 13 for EU regions.
  • What security mode are you using? Preferred security is WPA-Personal. WPA2/AES Only. Some WiFi adapters don't support AES, so you might want to try TPIK only or Auto TPIK and AES.
  • Ensure any devices with WiFi adapter drivers are updated.
  • Any 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz cordless house phones or WiFi APs near by that maybe causing interferences?
  • Any other WiFi routers in the area that maybe causing interferences? Link> Use a WiFi Scanner to find out. How many?
  • If you have any of these options, Try turning OFF or ON Short GI, WLAN Partition, Extra Wireless Protection and HT 20/40 Co-existence if you have it. Also testing with HT20/40Mhz Co-existence enabled will impact results as well. I prefer to use this option OFF. Recommended settings are default. Under Advanced/Advanced Wireless.


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Forum User - "Well I feel really dumb. After moving the router away from other electronic devices my speeds are back to normal. Just a heads up for anyone experiencing slow speeds, you might want to move it away from other electronics and see if that helps."
3-6' feet minimum safe distance between devices.
Placement on main level floor and central in the building and WELL ventilated is preferred. Not in basements or closets as building materials, or near by electronics devices could interfere or hinder good signal propagation.
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-basics/31083-smallnetbuilders-wireless-faq-the-essentials
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/10/27/how-to-get-stronger-wi-fi-signal.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl31|sec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D1839803170
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Re: 30 or so days then I lose wifi devices
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2016, 05:14:52 PM »

What Hardware version is your router? Look at sticker under the router case. B1
Link>What Firmware version is currently loaded? Found on the routers web page under status. 2.11
What region are you located? Canada
Are you wired or wireless connected to the router? both
Has a Factory Reset been performed? yes
Was a Factory Reset performed before and after any firmware updates then set up from scratch? yes
  Link> >FW Update Process
Was the router working before any firmware updates? yes

Internet Service Provider and Modem Configurations
What ISP Service do you have? Cable or DSL? DSL
What ISP Modem Mfr. and model # do you have? not using my isp modem, using a dlink dsl 520b

Wireless Configurations
Links>Wireless Installation Considerations and Managing Signal Congestion and Good Neighbour Policy
What wireless modes are you using? mixed N and G
Try single mode G or N or mixed G and N? cant, my laptop and wifes old iphone still use G
Channel Width set for Auto 20/40Mhz or try 20Mhz only. auto, I have also tried 20 only
Try setting a manual Channel to a open or unused channel. 1, 6 or 11. 11 for single mode N if the channel is clear. 13 for EU regions. wifi is set to an open channel
What security mode are you using? Preferred security is WPA-Personal. WPA2/AES Only. Some WiFi adapters don't support AES, so you might want to try TPIK only or Auto TPIK and AES. no security, its open
Ensure any devices with WiFi adapter drivers are updated. yes, i keep my FW up to date on all devices
Any 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz cordless house phones or WiFi APs near by that maybe causing interferences? no phones, or access points near by
Any other WiFi routers in the area that maybe causing interferences? Link> Use a WiFi Scanner to find out. How many? no, I use the wifi analyzer app on my phone to make sure. I live in a small town
If you have any of these options, Try turning OFF or ON Short GI, WLAN Partition, Extra Wireless Protection and HT 20/40 Co-existence if you have it. Also testing with HT20/40Mhz Co-existence enabled will impact results as well. I prefer to use this option OFF. Recommended settings are default. Under Advanced/Advanced Wireless. short gi is on, wlan partition is off, no HT20/40Mhz Co-existence option


Router Placement
Forum User - "Well I feel really dumb. After moving the router away from other electronic devices my speeds are back to normal. Just a heads up for anyone experiencing slow speeds, you might want to move it away from other electronics and see if that helps."
3-6' feet minimum safe distance between devices.
Placement on main level floor and central in the building and WELL ventilated is preferred. Not in basements or closets as building materials, or near by electronics devices could interfere or hinder good signal propagation. router is on the main floor of my house, in the open and well ventilated
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Re: 30 or so days then I lose wifi devices
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2016, 07:25:02 AM »

What channel is the router set to?

Seems like your in a idea environment so the router should be experiencing any issues.

One thing I might do if this is seen again, download v2.11 or 2.12 and do the following, factory reset the router, manually load the FW file. factory reset once more then set up from scratch. Don't load any saved config files.

Does the router feel over warm or hot?
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Re: 30 or so days then I lose wifi devices
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2016, 08:49:07 AM »

Router is set to channel 3.  Its not being used by anybody but me.

When i moved 2 years ago i did a factory reset... reloaded 2.11 ... did another factory reset and set up from scratch. I  also did this again about 6 months ago when i went back to this router.

I was unaware there was a version 2.12

Router does not feel warm or hot
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Re: 30 or so days then I lose wifi devices
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2016, 09:12:00 AM »

Please switch channels to 1 6 or 11 as all other channels are not primary and are sideband channels used by the routers wifi drivers. Set channel 11.
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Re: 30 or so days then I lose wifi devices
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2016, 10:11:25 AM »

Interesting... I didn't know that. I was under the impression to just use a channel that was open.

Should i still use 1, 6 or 11 even if one of my neighbors are using them?

Thanks for the info
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Re: 30 or so days then I lose wifi devices
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2016, 10:30:32 AM »

If the signal from your neighbors is very low then you can use the same channel.

Graphical representation of 2.4 GHz band channels overlapping
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Re: 30 or so days then I lose wifi devices
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2016, 02:49:42 PM »

made it 14 days... and just now my laptop and wii u all of a sudden cant connect to my 2.4 wifi...

wii u error code is "could not aquire an ip address."

but my phone (galaxy s6) connected is to the 5ghz access point (dir-860l), and its working fine, and the galaxy tablet is on the 2.4 wifi also working fine.

tried my work phone (galaxy s5) and it wont connect to the 2.4, or 5ghz, it fails to aquire an ip address.
 
i manually configured the ip address on my laptop, it connected and is working fine.

I will try manually configuring the wii u... when my son is done playin video games

so something is messed up in the dhcp server...

all i really have left to try is enabling "always broadcast" in the dhcp settings

or i guess i could set static ips for the devices that dont leave my house...
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Re: 30 or so days then I lose wifi devices
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2016, 03:14:56 PM »

What channel are you using on the 655? 860L?
Are both 655 and 860L radios going at the same time?
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Re: 30 or so days then I lose wifi devices
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2016, 03:15:48 PM »

i guess i should add... all of my devices have dhcp reservations... so there is no ip conflicts...
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Re: 30 or so days then I lose wifi devices
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2016, 03:18:35 PM »

What channel are you using on the 655? 860L?
Are both 655 and 860L radios going at the same time?

channel 6 on the 655. i just checked... and nobody else around me is on channel 6

only using 5ghz on the 860... channel 36.

the 2.4 is turned off on the 860
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Re: 30 or so days then I lose wifi devices
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2016, 03:29:32 PM »

might turn OFF the 2.4Ghz radio on the 655 and enable it on the 860L and see how it does.
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Re: 30 or so days then I lose wifi devices
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2016, 04:04:04 PM »

might turn OFF the 2.4Ghz radio on the 655 and enable it on the 860L and see how it does.

with that setup the 655 would still be in control of  the dhcp...

I dont know if that will solve my problem...
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Re: 30 or so days then I lose wifi devices
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2016, 04:12:13 PM »

Yes, if your still using the 655 as the main host router then it will control the DCHP.
Is the 860L running as a 2ndary AP?

Do you have reserved IP addresses set up for each device on the 655?
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