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Title: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: murchman on December 03, 2013, 07:03:29 AM
So I have been running an Apple Airport Time capsule 4th gen wireless router for over a year and I have been really happy with it but since we have become cable cutters as well as Xbox One/360 on line gamers I needed something that would help with sharing our bandwidth (Xfinitity 50/10).

With my Airport file transfers in the room directly above where the office with the router is located I would get transfer speeds using a 1GB file in the 15Mb a sec range. Using the exact same channel, SID, Password, encryption, etc using the 5500 I get transfer speeds in the 2.5Mb sec range. Regardless If I connect to the 2.4 GHz or the 5 GHz channel.

The Xbox One in the same room has similar differences. When you run detailed network test on it the apple gets my cables maximum bandwidth of 50 down and 11 up and no packet loss. When connected to the 5500 it drops down to 5 down and 11 up and packet loss in the 2% range.

Both routers are placed in the exact same spot when testing, use the same channels, same encryption, etc. During testing the router is the only router on.

I really want to like the 5500 but it's not even close to the same performance as the Apple router. I am running the latest beta firmware and have reset the router to factory defaults a number of times.

Any ideas before I send it back?
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2013, 07:07:33 AM
Link>Welcome! (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=41537.0)


 
Wireless Configurations
Links>Wireless Installation Considerations (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=48327.0) and Managing Signal Congestion (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=53228.0)

Router Placement
Forum User - "Well I feel really dumb. After moving the router away from other electronic devices my speeds are back to normal. Just a heads up for anyone experiencing slow speeds, you might want to move it away from other electronics and see if that helps."
6" minimum safe distance between devices.

3rd Party Security Software Configurations



Here are my last results I did:
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=56262.msg219228#msg219228 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=56262.msg219228#msg219228)
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: murchman on December 03, 2013, 07:18:25 AM
i'm running 1.11B03 Firmware. The router is not near anything and like I said the Apple router is placed in the exact same spot and does not have any of the issues. I have went from 20/40 to 20 with no change.

On the 2.4GHz range there are about 8 different other wireless routers from my neighbors. On the 5Ghz range there is only one other router around and it is on the 36 channel and mine is on the 139 channel.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2013, 07:23:13 AM
Let us know the results of the suggestions presented. I saw avg 20Mb when I tested mine. Def test with HT20/40 enabled and disabled.

Let us know modes you are using.
How are you determining the speed? Speed file xfers between a device and a file server?
What platform are you using? Mac or Windows?

I tested both Mac and Windows on mine all connected to a file server for Read and Write operations.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: murchman on December 03, 2013, 07:35:47 AM
Using WPA2 Personal with AES only. Tried N only, G only, and mixed. For G there is no open channel but tried 1, 6, and 11.

No phones in the house other than cell phones. During testing only wireless devices connected are the laptops or Xbox's. File transfers where done using Windows 8.1 and Mac Mavricks pulling from a Windows server connected directly to the router using Ethernet. Used the Windows 8.1 new file transfer tool that shows you real time file transfer speed along with a graph.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2013, 07:44:05 AM
Ok, I used Windows 7 x64.

Curious, whats your wired speeds on the clients.

Test with HT20/40Mhz disabled:
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=48327.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=48327.0)

What are your distances between the test client and the 5500?
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: murchman on December 03, 2013, 07:48:44 AM
I will check tonight when I get back home.

I really want to like this router as it has more features and reporting than Apple but at the end of the day it's about how they perform day to day. Not sure what Apple is doing but it's working really well. I even switched to my old Netgear WNDR 3700 v1 and put DD-WRT on it and experienced the same type of issues the 5500 is experiencing which is why I moved to the Apple router in the first place.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2013, 07:55:35 AM
There are many differences between Mfr routers and WiFi. Even though WiFi is a standard, it's how the Mfrs of routers implement it and design it. Many variables.

Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: 187 on December 03, 2013, 08:10:42 AM
So, does the apple router not share your bandwidth very well? Are you running into issues currently? Your original post is making me consider dropping my 5500 and pick up an airport. I've assumed the low speeds from the detailed network results on my Xbox One and pack loss were on Microsoft's end, but I have been suspicious of the 5500.

I am getting the same results that you mentioned. My Xbox One is hard wired and my speed tests from my hard wired PCs get more than my full 30 and 5 with a low ping (< 50) almost no matter which server I pick in the US. My Xbox one gets about 5 down and less than 5 up. with a ping of anywhere from 120 to over 200. I've forwarded all the recommended ports (https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/networking/network-ports-used-xbox-live (https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/networking/network-ports-used-xbox-live)) to make sure I have an open NAT, but I still need to reboot the Xbox (as pointing out in another post) and often, the router, to get an open NAT.

I'm going to try hard wiring the Xbox One directly to the cable modem tonight and running the detailed network results. Sorry, I may not be much help, but it is interesting to see another user having the same issue in a similar situation with this router.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2013, 08:20:58 AM
What are your results of the suggestions and questions.

I don't have XB1 and only 360 however my PC testing seems good for this router.

So, does the apple router not share your bandwidth very well? Are you running into issues currently? Your original post is making me consider dropping my 5500 and pick up an airport. I've assumed the low speeds from the detailed network results on my Xbox One and pack loss were on Microsoft's end, but I have been suspicious of the 5500.

I am getting the same results that you mentioned. My Xbox One is hard wired and my speed tests from my hard wired PCs get more than my full 30 and 5 with a low ping (< 50) almost no matter which server I pick in the US. My Xbox one gets about 5 down and less than 5 up. with a ping of anywhere from 120 to over 200. I've forwarded all the recommended ports (https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/networking/network-ports-used-xbox-live (https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/networking/network-ports-used-xbox-live)) to make sure I have an open NAT, but I still need to reboot the Xbox (as pointing out in another post) and often, the router, to get an open NAT.

I'm going to try hard wiring the Xbox One directly to the cable modem tonight and running the detailed network results. Sorry, I may not be much help, but it is interesting to see another user having the same issue in a similar situation with this router.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: 187 on December 03, 2013, 08:50:38 AM
I try not to put too much stock in speed tests, especially since one side of them is out of my control. Using time warner's internal speed test, I get consistent results from my PC through this router. speedtest.net wasn't always consistent, but last night I tried several servers around the country and got pretty consistent results.

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3140710676
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3140714525
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3140716356

The Xbox One tests are a little more troubling. Packet loss and a high ping can be the difference between life and death in an FPS like COD. I've also had nightly games where it was laggy and stuttering when no one else in my party was having an issue. I just assumed it was some slight incompatibility between my router and the host's router.

I have the Xbox One as #1 in my priority list on the 5500 and I've set the down and up measurements to 100 and 10, respectively.

My real world tests (other than the periodic lag in COD Ghosts) were more positive with this router. I tried streaming 3 HD videos (two wired devices and one wireless) and had no issues, with traffic shaping enabled. Interestingly, when I tried streaming just one video from the furthest wireless connection in my house and nothing else, with traffic shaping off, the video would have to buffer every few minutes. Enabling traffic shaping eliminated it. Strange considering there was no other traffic on my network at the time.

Turning traffic shaping off did not change the lag in Ghosts, so I am leaving it on. Again, that is just every once in a while, but it is concerning that no one else is experiencing it on my team. I tried rebooting both devices (5500 and Xbox One) before gaming last night and did not get much lag. It will be interesting to take the router out of the loop and try the Xbox One network test and a night of gaming.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2013, 08:54:34 AM
What are the distances between the test client, XB1 and the 5500?

Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: 187 on December 03, 2013, 09:05:42 AM
What are the distances between the test client, XB1 and the 5500?

  • Any cordless house phones?
  • Any other WiFi routers in the area? Link> Use InSSIDer (http://www.metageek.net/) to find out. How many?

I'm assuming these questions are for the OP, as my Xbox One is hard wired to the router. I have a 25 foot cat6 cable coming tomorrow to replace the 50 foot cat5e cable, but I don't think that will make much of a difference.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2013, 09:07:18 AM
Directed at you 187...Wired should be good regardless of cabling unless cable is bad. Wired is preferred.
I'm assuming these questions are for the OP, as my Xbox One is hard wired to the router. I have a 25 foot cat6 cable coming tomorrow to replace the 50 foot cat5e cable, but I don't think that will make much of a difference.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: 187 on December 03, 2013, 09:12:27 AM
In that case, especially since I was having the issue streaming video over the wireless (wireless G) with traffic shaping off - my cordless phone base is no longer plugged in (the phones all have dead batteries and won't hold a charge). However, I do have an ooma close to the router, but I thought I had turned off the ooma's wireless. Not sure. I'll have to check.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: 187 on December 03, 2013, 09:14:08 AM
By the way, the ooma is inside the network (after the router), so it is not doing any routing for my network. Nothing is plugged into it, it is just for voip.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: djid10t on December 03, 2013, 09:23:41 AM
I thought I would jump in here as I think I have seen something similar in my testing with the 5500.

In running a speedtest that not only measures the speed but how long it takes for packets to come and go in a stream, I noticed that with the speed(stream) boost enabled, an upload will stream for 2 seconds, pause for 2 seconds then finish the rest of the test.  I will post a screenshot of this when I get home.  If I take speed(stream) boost off I do not get the delay.  

I have an XBone (wired) and I too, have the 2% loss both with the stream boost on or off.  I thought it was my internet, but now I am wondering if it is the router.  

Edit: corrected terminology
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2013, 09:24:43 AM
Well, streaming over G might not carry a big enough pipe for some streaming. Might depend on the rate of your source video can impact this as well. The small the data rate is on video files the better G might handle them. The bigger, then the pipe becomes filled to capacity and data flow performance will decrease.

Router Placement
Forum User - "Well I feel really dumb. After moving the router away from other electronic devices my speeds are back to normal. Just a heads up for anyone experiencing slow speeds, you might want to move it away from other electronics and see if that helps."
6" minimum safe distance between devices. Far as possible is preferred.

In that case, especially since I was having the issue streaming video over the wireless (wireless G) with traffic shaping off - my cordless phone base is no longer plugged in (the phones all have dead batteries and won't hold a charge). However, I do have an ooma close to the router, but I thought I had turned off the ooma's wireless. Not sure. I'll have to check.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2013, 09:26:50 AM
Are you wired or wireless when testing? Both exhibit the same thing?
What modes are you using when wireless? Both radios?
Is HT20/40Mhz Co-existence enabled or disabled?

I thought I would jump in here as I think I have seen something similar in my testing with the 5500.

In running a speedtest that not only measures the speed but how long it takes for packets to come and go in a stream, I noticed that with the speed boost enabled, an upload will stream for 2 seconds, pause for 2 seconds then finish the rest of the test.  I will post a screenshot of this when I get home.  If I take speed boost off I do not get the delay.  

I have an XBone (wired) and I too, have the 2% loss both with the stream boost on or off.  I thought it was my internet, but now I am wondering if it is the router. 
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: djid10t on December 03, 2013, 09:33:04 AM
Are you wired or wireless when testing? Both exhibit the same thing?
What modes are you using when wireless? Both radios?
Is HT20/40Mhz Co-existence enabled or disabled?


Speed test was wireless from Alienware win 7 os, but the XBone test was wired and wireless and still had 2% loss.
Both radios are enabled, I am using 2.4 for computers and 5.0 for the XBone.
HT20/40 enabled for both.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2013, 09:38:27 AM
Set single mode N, WPA2 and AES only and disable HT20/40 and test again with XB1 or PC.

Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: djid10t on December 03, 2013, 09:43:26 AM
Set single mode N, WPA2 and AES only and disable HT20/40 and test again with XB1 or PC.

Ok I will try it, but I won't be able to report back until I get home in a few hours.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2013, 09:44:12 AM
At your leisure sir.  ;)

Ok I will try it, but I won't be able to report back until I get home in a few hours.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: murchman on December 03, 2013, 10:06:33 AM
The reason I am wanting to move off the Apple was for what the Streamboost was supposed to do that Apple doesn't. If in the living room someone is streaming a movie on the Apple TV, the office someone is listing to Pandora, my son is streaming a movie to his iPad, and I am on the Xbox gaming I want to make sure the bandwidth was going to the right places so everyone could enjoy what they were doing.

The Apple Router shows up as Open Nat and we have had no issues playing online using it with the 360 or the One. The 5500 does great when the Xbox's are plugged in via Ethernet with no issues but the problem is that Ethernet is only available in the living room and office and the Xbox's need to be up stairs where when gaming we don't take over the living room. The Game room is directly above the office so only the floor is in the way and the Apple router has no issues as i posted with that setup.

So, does the apple router not share your bandwidth very well? Are you running into issues currently? Your original post is making me consider dropping my 5500 and pick up an airport. I've assumed the low speeds from the detailed network results on my Xbox One and pack loss were on Microsoft's end, but I have been suspicious of the 5500.

I am getting the same results that you mentioned. My Xbox One is hard wired and my speed tests from my hard wired PCs get more than my full 30 and 5 with a low ping (< 50) almost no matter which server I pick in the US. My Xbox one gets about 5 down and less than 5 up. with a ping of anywhere from 120 to over 200. I've forwarded all the recommended ports (https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/networking/network-ports-used-xbox-live (https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/networking/network-ports-used-xbox-live)) to make sure I have an open NAT, but I still need to reboot the Xbox (as pointing out in another post) and often, the router, to get an open NAT.

I'm going to try hard wiring the Xbox One directly to the cable modem tonight and running the detailed network results. Sorry, I may not be much help, but it is interesting to see another user having the same issue in a similar situation with this router.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2013, 10:21:59 AM
Can you get an estimate one distances, even direct line of direct upstairs. I presume the router is is the office or the living room?

Central placement of the router is key as well.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: murchman on December 03, 2013, 10:34:25 AM
Router is about 15 feet below and is in the middle of the outside wall about a foot away in the center of the tablet about 12 inches away from the modem and switch in the office. Testing is done directly above it in the middle of the room sitting on a plastic table.

When I get home tonight I will put up some screen shots of the testing along with the placement of the routers.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: 187 on December 03, 2013, 10:39:06 AM
The 5500 does great when the Xbox's are plugged in via Ethernet with no issues...

So you get your full bandwidth with the Xbox One hard wired? Hmm. I wonder what's wrong with mine?

As for the wireless, did you try making sure the 5500 is away from other devices (even non-wireless ones) that may be causing interference - TV, etc. I had a DGL-4300 that died recently and swapped in the 5500 in the exact same location, but noticed the 5500 was a little more susceptible to interference from these devices than the 4300. I had to move it to a slightly different location in order for it to work as well as the 4300.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2013, 10:44:26 AM
Have you done a factory reset on the XB1?

So you get your full bandwidth with the Xbox One hard wired? Hmm. I wonder what's wrong with mine?

As for the wireless, did you try making sure the 5500 is away from other devices (even non-wireless ones) that may be causing interference - TV, etc. I had a DGL-4300 that died recently and swapped in the 5500 in the exact same location, but noticed the 5500 was a little more susceptible to interference from these devices than the 4300. I had to move it to a slightly different location in order for it to work as well as the 4300.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: murchman on December 03, 2013, 11:01:42 AM
No, its just now working they way we want and don't want to have to getting it to learn all over again. Also its not the only device having the issue.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2013, 11:07:13 AM
I would do a factory reset or try the button thing on the controller to refresh the NAT.

Xbox is notorious for there networking and not fully clearing out. Factory reset does this.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: 187 on December 03, 2013, 11:09:23 AM
Have you done a factory reset on the XB1?

Definitely. Held the power button down for 5 seconds. Still had the NAT issue and had to reboot the 5500 and XB1 to get it open again. Same problem last night. Network tests have never yielded full bandwidth for me on the XB1 through the 5500. Definitely going to try the XB1 direct from the cable modem tonight. I've got a friend/co-worker with another router and he tells me the XB1 network test reports his full bandwidth. I'll report back on the direct wired to the modem test.

As for the NAT, I know there is an outstanding issue with the XB1 and UpNp and the instant on feature (according to another post here), but I like the instant on for the kids and wife so they can just say: "Xbox, On". They don't game online on the One, so the NAT is not an issue. I figure if I have to reboot the Xbox and router each night until MS and/or dlink can fix it, so be it.

I really want the 5500 to work for me, as the 4300 worked great for years. Most of the time, it is working pretty well. Just wish it was 100% of the time.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2013, 11:14:54 AM
Yes, ensure you disable Instant On feature of the XB1. Saw same issue using DIR-868L router with my friends XB1. OPEN NAT now.

Set your ABE for 100.00 and 10.00. Test with ABE ON and OFF. Last run I did using these same settings I got full speeds however I don't have XB1 so you'll have to post that. Run a PC wired test first then test XB1.

Install CAT6 when you get it too.  ::)

Keep us posted.


Definitely. Held the power button down for 5 seconds. Still had the NAT issue and had to reboot the 5500 and XB1 to get it open again. Same problem last night. Network tests have never yielded full bandwidth for me on the XB1 through the 5500. Definitely going to try the XB1 direct from the cable modem tonight. I've got a friend/co-worker with another router and he tells me the XB1 network test reports his full bandwidth. I'll report back on the direct wired to the modem test.

As for the NAT, I know there is an outstanding issue with the XB1 and UpNp and the instant on feature (according to another post here), but I like the instant on for the kids and wife so they can just say: "Xbox, On". They don't game online on the One, so the NAT is not an issue. I figure if I have to reboot the Xbox and router each night until MS and/or dlink can fix it, so be it.

I really want the 5500 to work for me, as the 4300 worked great for years. Most of the time, it is working pretty well. Just wish it was 100% of the time.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: 187 on December 03, 2013, 11:54:05 AM
I thought I would jump in here as I think I have seen something similar in my testing with the 5500.

In running a speedtest that not only measures the speed but how long it takes for packets to come and go in a stream, I noticed that with the speed(stream) boost enabled, an upload will stream for 2 seconds, pause for 2 seconds then finish the rest of the test.  I will post a screenshot of this when I get home.  If I take speed(stream) boost off I do not get the delay.  

I have an XBone (wired) and I too, have the 2% loss both with the stream boost on or off.  I thought it was my internet, but now I am wondering if it is the router.  

Edit: corrected terminology

I've noticed those pauses, too. Not sure if I saw them last night as I was watching TV and doing the speed tests. I'll have to check again.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: 187 on December 03, 2013, 04:34:39 PM
OK. I think I'm comfortable enough to say the router is not the issue. It is either Time Warner or Microsoft. Since speed tests from the PC are consistently higher, I'd say it is on the MS side. I ran multiple tests from the XB1 through the router and directly connected to the cable modem. Results were the same either way.

Download speed ranged from around 6 Mbps to around 25 Mbps. Both with and without the router in the middle. I am assuming it is bandwidth on my ISP or on the MS end that causes the fluctuations.

Upload speeds were consistently 5+ Mbps.

Download packet loss was 1% each time.

Upload packet loss was 0% each time.

MTU: 1480

Latency: 85-100 ms

It was not a scientific test, but I am confident the router is not the issue. Most of the time it works well, I will stop worrying about these test results. As long as I am not laggy all the time, I'll be pretty happy.

Still wish the Strict NAT was not an issue. I had to had to reboot the router to get rid of it. Rebooting the Xbox did not do it.

Also of note, I did not notice the pausing in the speed tests from my PC.

Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2013, 04:51:54 PM
I recommend that you have your ISP check the cabling going to the ISP modem, check signal levels going to the ISP modem. Check for t.v. line splitters and remove them as they can introduce noise on the line and lower the signal going to the ISP modem. Connecting to the ISP modem could result in a false positive as the signal to the modem could be just enough to that point then adding on a router, could see problems. The router operation is dependent upon getting good data flow from the ISP modem and the modem is dependent upon getting good signal from the ISP Service.

I've forwarded this thread on to D-Link for review. I'll post if I get any info.

OK. I think I'm comfortable enough to say the router is not the issue. It is either Time Warner or Microsoft. Since speed tests from the PC are consistently higher, I'd say it is on the MS side. I ran multiple tests from the XB1 through the router and directly connected to the cable modem. Results were the same either way.

Download speed ranged from around 6 Mbps to around 25 Mbps. Both with and without the router in the middle. I am assuming it is bandwidth on my ISP or on the MS end that causes the fluctuations.

Upload speeds were consistently 5+ Mbps.

Download packet loss was 1% each time.

Upload packet loss was 0% each time.

MTU: 1480

Latency: 85-100 ms

It was not a scientific test, but I am confident the router is not the issue. Most of the time it works well, I will stop worrying about these test results. As long as I am not laggy all the time, I'll be pretty happy.

Still wish the Strict NAT was not an issue. I had to had to reboot the router to get rid of it. Rebooting the Xbox did not do it.

Also of note, I did not notice the pausing in the speed tests from my PC.


Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: 187 on December 03, 2013, 05:31:02 PM
I said I was ruling out the 5500 as the issue. The router did not change the results at all, it was equally up and done with or without the router.

I think everyone in the neighborhood is home browsing, streaming, gaming, etc. I will run some tests later when more people are asleep. I think the bandwidth is there now when I need it, as I do not have any issues streaming multiple HD movies. A speed test to the Time Warner internal server is consistently 30+ down and 5+ up, even right now. I doubt they would consider it an issue.

Also of note, since you mentioned dlink said they have no NAT problems with the default settings, I decided to stop port forwarding as I never needed to do that with the 360 with either of my dgl routers. 3 reboots of the XB1 and it was open every time, no port forwarding needed. I think forwarding the ports was a reaction to the bug where the XB1 comes out of sleep (instant on) and the NAT ends up strict. I will try just rebooting the XB1 next time that happens and see if it works better without the port forwarding.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 03, 2013, 05:35:53 PM
Turn that Instant ON OFF. LOL.
Glad it seems to be working better for you.

Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: djid10t on December 04, 2013, 06:07:31 AM
Sorry I didn't get back sooner, but here are my results:

The following charts are the upload Quality of service during the speedtest.

(http://www.kitcan.net/WO%20router.JPG)
I get the above results with the following conditions:

Now here is what I get WITH Streamboost active.

(http://www.kitcan.net/Wireless%20HT2040%20dis%20SB.JPG)

It does not matter if it's wired or wireless.  Again does not matter the wireless settings.  The chart looks the same.  A noticable pause or "delay" after 2000 ms lasting for about 2000 ms or 2 seconds.

Now I don't know if that pause appears during gaming or not, but it does show up for the tests.

Also, it's not priority based as only one device was on at the time of testing and it was being used for the test! :)
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: 187 on December 04, 2013, 07:26:32 AM
Interesting chart. What did you use to create it? You can definitely see the delay there. Am I reading the two charts right? It looks like the delay is consistently much worse (outside of the 2 second pause) without the router hooked up. No, wait. The scales are just different on the two charts.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: djid10t on December 04, 2013, 07:49:50 AM
Yes the scales are different.  You can get this info at ispgeeks.com.  Just run the basic speed test and when it's done some tabs will show up with detailed info.

My ISP is a wi-max provider so my results will less optimal then most.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 04, 2013, 07:59:03 AM
If someone can test a wired ISP, cable or DSL?
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: 187 on December 04, 2013, 08:11:07 AM
Yes the scales are different.  You can get this info at ispgeeks.com.  Just run the basic speed test and when it's done some tabs will show up with detailed info.

My ISP is a wi-max provider so my results will less optimal then most.

Thanks. I've never used their speed test. I will use that tonight. I hope it is not flash based, then I could also run it from the Xbox One.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: djid10t on December 04, 2013, 08:15:34 AM
It's java based.....
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 04, 2013, 08:25:24 AM
Anyone try some other sites?
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=48352.0 (http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=48352.0)
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: 187 on December 05, 2013, 09:21:56 AM
If someone can test a wired ISP, cable or DSL?

OK. I ran the ispgeeks tests last night. I have Time Warner and was hard wired to the router. I saved the charts, but don't have them with me at work today. I did see a similar pause on my first run - although not as long. Turned off traffic shaping and no pause. Turned traffic shaping back on and ran again, no pause. I ran several more and still did not see another pause. I'll try again tonight.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 05, 2013, 09:23:53 AM
Thank you for sharing...Keep us posted. I have forwarded this on to D-Link for review. They will be watching and checking this out.


OK. I ran the ispgeeks tests last night. I have Time Warner and was hard wired to the router. I saved the charts, but don't have them with me at work today. I did see a similar pause on my first run - although not as long. Turned off traffic shaping and no pause. Turned traffic shaping back on and ran again, no pause. I ran several more and still did not see another pause. I'll try again tonight.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: murchman on December 05, 2013, 10:21:48 AM
Sorry I haven't been back, we had a family emergency come up that is keeping me away from things. I hope to get some testing in tomorrow.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 05, 2013, 10:34:45 AM
Hope all will be ok. Keep us posted when you can.
 ;)

Sorry I haven't been back, we had a family emergency come up that is keeping me away from things. I hope to get some testing in tomorrow.
Title: Re: Wifi Performance coming from an Apple Airport
Post by: FurryNutz on December 05, 2013, 04:01:09 PM
Ok, put my 5500 back online today:
ISP speet test:
Last Result:
Download Speed: 52230 kbps (6528.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 3162 kbps (395.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
Thursday, December 05, 2013 4:56:21 PM

Speedtest.net:
Last Result:
Download Speed: 51471 kbps (6433.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 3155 kbps (394.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
Thursday, December 05, 2013 4:56:48 PM