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The Graveyard - Products No Longer Supported => Routers / COVR => DGL-4500 => Topic started by: Ru-Fi-Oh on October 09, 2009, 11:39:42 AM
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Here's the run down..
If you can wait one more week we will conclude our results of the beta firmware that's been handed out to several customers for testing. So far it has been 4 weeks since the first customer to try it and seems 80% of users have reported positive feedback. By next week if that number holds up we will go into our 2nd stage and release the code as beta here in the forums for you to try and get your feedback.
Thank you!
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Thanks for the update.
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Yea thanks i really hope everything works out with the new beta.
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Ummm..... I'm already running 1.21NA.... how is there a beta for a firmware that is already out?
Either way, how do I get in on this.. my router is still jacked...
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I would definitely love to test this one out, as I had to disable MANY features to get it stable. I'd like to see if it works out of the box at default settings, since that's how it is normally.
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D Link selected certain people to do testing. You will just have to wait a week tell they go to the second phase or if you know someone with the update you can get it off them.
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Are we seriously talking 1.21?
I have had 1.21 FROM THIER WEBSITE for over a month....
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It's build 3 of 1.21NA. We have build 2.
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Hook me up! Anything to fix this BS....
I'd paint my router pink and call it Barbie's Malibu WiFi if I knew the **** wouldnt crash daily...
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Yes it is 1.21 build 03 beta 01.
Reinvented,
I don't think you ever saw the wan slow down and lockups did you?
If I remember correctly you just had latency of wireless or no?
If not I will see if I can get you the code since you have tested for us before.
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Please send me a copy of the firmware. Thanks.
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Yes it is 1.21 build 03 beta 01.
Reinvented,
I don't think you ever saw the wan slow down and lockups did you?
If I remember correctly you just had latency of wireless or no?
If not I will see if I can get you the code since you have tested for us before.
I did get the lockups after certain conditions which I outlined in one other thread. I think it's in the Beta forum. Only after disabling most of the stuff, such as DNS Relay, and even WISH, I've been up for 26 days now. Which is impressive.
I'd like to definitely test it at it's default settings, with my previous settings to see how it will play. Yes, I did also have wireless latency, and sometimes spikes over wired. I'm hoping this will address that issue too.
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Can't wait. I've been waiting and watching for this while now.
Glad to hear there may be relief on the horizon. Right now I reboot my router every other morning before I go to work to head off the eventual lock up.
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Definitely willing to check this one out.
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Would Love to give this a test cant wait
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Is there any way I can be emailed whenever this beta comes out? I'd be MORE than happy to help test. I'm on a not-so-reliable wireless internet connection, and troubleshooting this issue has been a major pain, but my ISP is reporting that I haven't dropped connection in about 2 months (since my last power outage).
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forget email me when ready, email me the firmware :-)
pittaATliveDOTcom
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I'll try it out. Resetting once a day at this point, can't get worse without it dying altogether.
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Ru-Fi-Oh sent me the Firmware, so I will start my normal battery round of testing on it. Normally, with how it is at default, and with the simple stuff changed such as DNS servers, and wireless SSID. Will definitely report back here. ;)
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OH PLEASE send me the firmware =D ive been getting tired of resetting my router every day or so, and tired of wireless dieing on me every evening!! oh please let me be a beta tester??? ;D ;D
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I would also love to have the new firmware beta, i'm kinda tired of using my lagging airport router...i want my fast router(dlg4500) back up and running ;) , i'd be happy to report back if it works out as a tester
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it would also be great if i also can have the firmware to test it out turnin off/on my router everyday is just too much right now
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I'm sure you'll find EVERYONE in the 4500 section would be willing to beta test(myself included) haha
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I'm sure you'll find EVERYONE in the 4500 section would be willing to beta test(myself included) haha
Yep that is true but soon enough everyone will have it. Hopefully its released on the weekend or something.
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It's good to hear the news ;)
Hope the beta firmware can be released asap.
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I have a Dir-855 and I know this is the forum for the dgl-4500, but I did not see a post for this beta firmware for the dir-855 ??? Since these two routers have similar components will there be a beta firmware for the dir-855 as well? I really hope so, because I have the same problems as everybody else! Could you please inform us as to the release info for the dir-855? Thanks!
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I'd really like to get my hands on this firmware ASAP. I work from home and the nearly daily resets are causing me no end of problems.
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I have a Dir-855 and I know this is the forum for the dgl-4500, but I did not see a post for this beta firmware for the dir-855 ??? Since these two routers have similar components will there be a beta firmware for the dir-855 as well? I really hope so, because I have the same problems as everybody else! Could you please inform us as to the release info for the dir-855? Thanks!
Well just wait tell the beta firmware is released on the forum. Once they do that I'm sure they will release something for the DIR-855 in time.
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can't wait til beta release tomorrow....gonna have to dust off my ol dgl4500 and put my slow airport back in its box ;D (4500(fw1.15): 8-16mb down 3-5m up |Airport: 4-8mb down 2-4mb up)
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so when the update becomes available, i have to download it off the forums and not from the router info page? this http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=DGL-4500
and is there like a set date?
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I've been up for a day, with all my original settings intact. This includes me using GameFuel rules again, as well as WISH, and DNS relay, which was previous turned off for functionality. So far so good. I'd like to see it last 31 days.
And just for your information folks, I'm pretty sure that Ru-Fi-Oh mentioned that once it's released, it will be released as a Beta. I don't think he mentioned it being made an official/final release.
And since it is a Beta, it should be treated as such.
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As many have stated any improvement, beta code or not, is welcome.
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Okay I have just one question. I should be getting my new DGL-4500 in a few. (waiting on UPS) I thought this thing would be the answer to my problems as I have three xboxs trying to run SBL. So do I upgrade the firmware yet or just work with what I got for now. I have the DGL-4300 and it works like a champ until I turn on the 3rd xbox. I have to play my Madden so I had to have the kids turn one of them off. So you can see why I fell for this thing. I hope this beta firmware works. Any advice out there?
Numbknuckles
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I would really like to know how the wireless holds up, I setup a pc for gaming with wireless and a boosted antenna where I received 98-100% signal all the time and every 5 minutes or so gaming it would lag for up to a 2 second or so lag. Previous router never did that but the previous router always casued me issued with DHCP over wireless unless it had been rebooted every few days.
Let us know Reinvented.
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I do have an XBox 360, so I could do some testing over that. However, I don't have my subscription to XBL active at the moment, since I've been working. ;)
However, I will definitely test gaming over wireless. It'll be used in a N/G environment, with WPA2-AES only.
Latency is always a problem over wireless, and forever will it be. Especially over N, and high throughput devices. But, I will definitely see if it's an improvement over dropping and huge spikes. Overall, it should be fairly consistent.
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I've been up for a day, with all my original settings intact. This includes me using GameFuel rules again, as well as WISH, and DNS relay, which was previous turned off for functionality. So far so good. I'd like to see it last 31 days.
And just for your information folks, I'm pretty sure that Ru-Fi-Oh mentioned that once it's released, it will be released as a Beta. I don't think he mentioned it being made an official/final release.
And since it is a Beta, it should be treated as such.
Yep is not a final release kinda why they call it beda but once they have the major problems ironed out they can work on fixing other smaller issues with it. Yea would be nice if it does last 31 days plus even at least then we will know that the lockup problem is fixed. Like the first post said it will be released on the forum and most likely will not be in the DGL 4500 firmware web page but we will just have to wait and see.
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Gimmie gimmie gimmie! So sick of the lockups!
Iv'e got 2 360's that are constantly on playing games or streaming using PlayOn from my Windows Home Server... I can stress the WAN and LAN.... hook me up!
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Please let me know about beta FW and testing. I've got a buddy in OK that has the 4500 and for some reason, he's the only one out of 4 of us who own this router that seems to be having issues. Both he and I are on the same FW, 1.21. Not sure what my other 2 buddies are running, I think there factory FW since I don't think there heavy into tweeking like we are. LOL.
He's having more disconnects and xbox showing closed NAT messages. I spent 7 hours over the MSN messenger walking him thru a full factory reset and turning off SPI, Dyn Frag and setting up Gaming, GameFuel and IP reservations for his 3 xbox 360s and a PC. All seemed to go well until last night and day before. He's telling me that gaming was good then, seems to be laggy at times, even if not playing with others, then as of last nite, they were in a match and got booted and said that xbl was disconnected. Seems like my fix worked for a while then deteriorated after about a week. He's on DSL and there is only one phone on the line and is filtered. He's called the DSL and Phone company and of course they say all there stuff is fine. Ya, ok.
As for me, I haven't seen this kind of issue on FW 1.21 however at times, I do have to power cycle the 4500 due to that just coming home from work and wanting to get email or web, the browser just sits there.
Also can any one direct me to a thread on here or give FULL details of what optimal settings should be used for XBL and Halo gaming? I've found a few things regarding gaming and game fuel. Just Would like D-link and or other XBL Halo gamers to let me know what works best. Routers are being used for internet part of the time but most gaming. My buddies 4500 has 3 xbox 360s connected, 2 wired, 1 wireless. The wireless one seems to function fine over the wireless connection however is effected by the unknown lag or disconnection of the router and internet. PLEASE let me know and thank you for your time and efforts.
For D-Link Tech Eng's. I'd volunteer my testing and computer expertise if I could join the beta team in testing your products. Please let me know if there is a way to join up. Thank you. Hope to see a fix soon.
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Okay I just finished hooking up my new 4500 and it came load with fw1.12 so of course I had problems right of the back. But the major problem I had was connecting back to the internet. long story short, the more changes (Ones suggested from this forum) I made the worse is got. So I went back to fac setting and loaded the current fw (1.21NA). I don't know about everyone else but my stuff is smoking. I have 1 wired, 3 wireless laptops running at the same time, 1 wireless HTPC and I tested three xbox's (2 playing ODST and 1 playing Madden 10). I didn't do anything special just made my settings look like my old 4300. I had no lag playing madden with just 2 xbox's running and alittle with the 3rd running Now I do understand that this is my first day so I will keep my fingers crossed. Oh and the Shareport works great. My HTPC is wireless N with a connetion somewhere btw 270mbps and 300mbps. Can't steam Bluray, to big but the dvd's that I have, which is of course less fps, stream with no problems. I will report back if issues pop up but so far so go. This forum had me worried.
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... I will report back if issues pop up but so far so go. This forum had me worried.
Thanks for reporting, the forums have me worried as well, so worried that I have yet to open my 4500. Was waiting to hear about this "beta" FW fix just in case I was to encounter the issues described by many.
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Please let me know about beta FW and testing. I've got a buddy in OK that has the 4500 and for some reason, he's the only one out of 4 of us who own this router that seems to be having issues. Both he and I are on the same FW, 1.21. Not sure what my other 2 buddies are running, I think there factory FW since I don't think there heavy into tweeking like we are. LOL.
He's having more disconnects and xbox showing closed NAT messages. I spent 7 hours over the MSN messenger walking him thru a full factory reset and turning off SPI, Dyn Frag and setting up Gaming, GameFuel and IP reservations for his 3 xbox 360s and a PC. All seemed to go well until last night and day before. He's telling me that gaming was good then, seems to be laggy at times, even if not playing with others, then as of last nite, they were in a match and got booted and said that xbl was disconnected. Seems like my fix worked for a while then deteriorated after about a week. He's on DSL and there is only one phone on the line and is filtered. He's called the DSL and Phone company and of course they say all there stuff is fine. Ya, ok.
As for me, I haven't seen this kind of issue on FW 1.21 however at times, I do have to power cycle the 4500 due to that just coming home from work and wanting to get email or web, the browser just sits there.
Also can any one direct me to a thread on here or give FULL details of what optimal settings should be used for XBL and Halo gaming? I've found a few things regarding gaming and game fuel. Just Would like D-link and or other XBL Halo gamers to let me know what works best. Routers are being used for internet part of the time but most gaming. My buddies 4500 has 3 xbox 360s connected, 2 wired, 1 wireless. The wireless one seems to function fine over the wireless connection however is effected by the unknown lag or disconnection of the router and internet. PLEASE let me know and thank you for your time and efforts.
For D-Link Tech Eng's. I'd volunteer my testing and computer expertise if I could join the beta team in testing your products. Please let me know if there is a way to join up. Thank you. Hope to see a fix soon.
You say your buddy is using a DSL connection. What make and model is his modem? With his router in play what is the first 2 octets of his WAN IP address from the status page of the router?
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Ru-Fi-Oh, is there any word on this beta FW being made available today? Did the numbers hold up to the 80% or whatever you mentioned a week ago?
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Hi, he just signed off and don't have his phone number however sent his son a message and hope to hear from him soon and will get you this information. He's headed out of town however back tomorrow. I know this, his ISP is SBC. Will post info via PM direct to you soon. Have a great weekend and thanks for your support.
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Ok i dont know if it will be fixxed soon and when i just need the fix i know its alot of money to soak and i just dont want another paper weight i am using COX communications and they didnt have a problem all i know is about the same time everyday i have to pull the plug on it to reset it it keeps giving me "The Connection to the Server has been Reset" well i dont have a server i know this so it would have to be the only thing that handles IP's and that would be the Router so i hope this can get fixed soon right now i disabled the DNS Relay and the Advanced DNS for now i haven't seen any changes but i will know around 1:30 my time when i get home from skool i am working on getting my Degree in IT-CNS (Computer Network Systems) so just PM with an update i check my email like every second so i know when i get something for an update thanks for hearing me out! I Loved this Router til this Firmware
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okay i am going on 7 hours, I know not much but my sons have came and told me they notice the differents. They are much happier with this router so far. I played two complete games of Madden online while my kids were on there xbox's and wife on her laptop. No hang ups at all. Keep in mind I only have a 5mb pipe. Only thing I can say is keep your settings simple. If you don't understand what it really does don't click it. Now if you are willing to go without then so be it make as many changes you need to get the QoS you're looking for. The world stops turning in my house when the net goes down. I will say this I am runnig stat ips. ANd this DNS Relay issue, I don't see it still checked on mine.
One last thing. I DO NOT SUPPORT ANYONE! So please do not think this is some type of fan support for dlink. I am just putting it out there straight. I am only speaking for myself.
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Well, I am still waiting for this new Beta. I have been a long time fan of D-Link, have had the 4300 forever and based on the reviews of that and personal experience I went ahead and bought the 4500. I guess I should have read the reviews and warnings for the 4500...I have the 1.15 firmware that it said I could upgrade to when I went to the firmware upgrade page and it did that for me to 1.15b03 and well that was a major fiasco. I went ahead and got just 1.15 on there now and it works ok... My wireless uploads from my laptop to my Windows Home Server is slow as molasses at best and my downloads scream... Wired everything is peachy but obviously people get a Wireless router to be able to use the Wireless features in it. I have another 27 days left before I can't return this for a refund(I always buy from Amazon.com) and I will give you guys at D-Link a chance to fix this in your so called 1.21 beta release 03 firmware. I thought that was supposed to come out today???? Hope it's out on Monday if not I am getting this router which I am sure could be as good, if not better, than the DGL-4300 and returning it to Amazon for a new Netgear 3700. That has dual band on all the time, which sounds like it would work great...too bad it wasn't implemented in this router. Anyways, if you are releasing the 1.21 b 03 and need a tester, I am all down for that because of that doesn't work, I can still return my router to Amazon...
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I'm hoping this is released soon. I've been having to power cycle my router every 3 days for weeks now, and its very, very, very annoying. I've had this router probably going on a year, and for the first few months I felt it was great, but over the past 6 months I know it was causing my internet to drop, they couldn't pinpoint it, they never saw the modem go down, so I gave in and updated my firmware to 1.21, and it fixed that issue, but another arose. (Lock up every 3 days, requires power cycle and its good).
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Agreed, I have to reset my router ever 7 hours or so. Wireless performance is also ridiculous.
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I'm not sure what everyones network is like, however if you have N/G devices, please try to use the following settings:
-DNS Relay Disabled (Unchecked)
-Advanced DNS Service (Disabled/Unchecked)
-Disable WISH
-No GameFuel rules, but can be active
-N/G Network 2.4 GHz/ WPA2-AES
With ALL of that disabled, and settings as such i was able to achieve 31 days of uptime. So far no problems, but I'm still monitoring my stuff.
I'll keep updating, so please be patient.
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and what about a verbatim HDD 3.5 inches one in the router
have you tried to be able to connect to HDD during the 31 days
anybody else have RCA or Accoustic Research internet radio
seem when im connected with cable not wireless it make weird noise
(can come fast or slower) with my other router never did that
ps i change router to have only 1 router in house
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I'm not sure what everyones network is like, however if you have N/G devices, please try to use the following settings:
-DNS Relay Disabled (Unchecked)
-Advanced DNS Service (Disabled/Unchecked)
-Disable WISH
-No GameFuel rules, but can be active
-N/G Network 2.4 GHz/ WPA2-AES
With ALL of that disabled, and settings as such i was able to achieve 31 days of uptime. So far no problems, but I'm still monitoring my stuff.
I'll keep updating, so please be patient.
I run my network very basic, I have 4 PC's, 3 of them are typically in use around the same time. Those 3 are on the LAN, the 4th is on the WLAN, along with the PS3 and Xbox360.
Also all 3 are mostly used for gaming, we play WoW, Aion, and at times some FPS. I went ahead and changed my settings to match yours above, I only had to disable wish, DNS relay, and changed my network to only do N/G, and set it to WPA2 only and AES only. Doing this my router came back up and was able to ping out fine, but I was unable to browse, I turned DNS Relay back on and its working again now.
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... I only had to disable wish, DNS relay,.... Doing this my router came back up and was able to ping out fine, but I was unable to browse, I turned DNS Relay back on and its working again now.
When disabling DNS Relay, you would most likely have to disable/enable you network card or reboot to get your network interface to "find" your ISPs DNS servers. Otherwise your network card would still have been trying to get DNS from the router.
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When disabling DNS Relay, you would most likely have to disable/enable you network card or reboot to get your network interface to "find" your ISPs DNS servers. Otherwise your network card would still have been trying to get DNS from the router.
just put the DNS from your isp in the network card problem resolve!
on each pc
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Is there a DL link for this yet or is it being emailed out?
I have the 1.21 and have to restart every day, and wireless drops off when transferring large files(larger than 300mb).
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Is there a DL link for this yet or is it being emailed out?
I have the 1.21 and have to restart every day, and wireless drops off when transferring large files(larger than 300mb).
There is no DL link that i know of. Hopefully tomorrow they will allow access to to the file on the forum. But yea there is no scheduled release date for it.
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I'm not sure what everyones network is like, however if you have N/G devices, please try to use the following settings:
-DNS Relay Disabled (Unchecked)
-Advanced DNS Service (Disabled/Unchecked)
-Disable WISH
-No GameFuel rules, but can be active
-N/G Network 2.4 GHz/ WPA2-AES
With ALL of that disabled, and settings as such i was able to achieve 31 days of uptime. So far no problems, but I'm still monitoring my stuff.
I'll keep updating, so please be patient.
Wow, that is a nice catch you got there. Paying premium for the router which main feature "GameFuel" should be disabled in order to run the router...Why not make it short and suggest buy a new router instead?
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I'm not too hip on the disable all of the advertised features to make it work thing myself. That's like selling a car with ac only to tell the buyer in a couple of months that they can't use the ac if they want to drive the car.
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Wow, that is a nice catch you got there. Paying premium for the router which main feature "GameFuel" should be disabled in order to run the router...Why not make it short and suggest buy a new router instead?
Okay, first...it was to get things stable for those who DONT have the new Beta firmware to try. Secondly, I didn't say to disable it. You can keep it enabled, I just said don't use any rules. It still prioritizes traffic..
Learn to read.
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So, how is the beta holding up? I am curious to know, because when I sell it, I want it to be a solid piece of equipment, not a broken weed. ;D
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Okay, first...it was to get things stable for those who DONT have the new Beta firmware to try. Secondly, I didn't say to disable it. You can keep it enabled, I just said don't use any rules. It still prioritizes traffic..
Learn to read.
I agree with u Reinveented he needs to go back to reading school because i understood what you said and i use a ton of chat lingo
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I have posted on this once before in this forum, but Ru-Fi-Oh, any news on a new firmware for the dir-855? I know that the dgl-4500 beta has not even been released yet, but it seems that there is less support or news for the dir-855 which is a MUCH more expensive router! I am not angry just frustrated not hearing any information for the dir-855. The two routers have the same pcb, yet the dir-855 has a faster processor, a dedicated 802.11n transmitter, and a third antenna. I would just like a thread like this in the dir-855 forum knowing that dlink is still supporting their top end products! ::)
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Wow, that is a nice catch you got there. Paying premium for the router which main feature "GameFuel" should be disabled in order to run the router...Why not make it short and suggest buy a new router instead?
Really its not Reinvented problem that the router is not working the way it should its a Dlink problem which there working on. Right now you are down to three options
A) keep the settings and enjoy the unstable router.
B) do what Reinvented said and have some what of a stable router tell new firmware fixes the problems.
C) buy a new router.
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I have posted on this once before in this forum, but Ru-Fi-Oh, any news on a new firmware for the dir-855? I know that the dgl-4500 beta has not even been released yet, but it seems that there is less support or news for the dir-855 which is a MUCH more expensive router! I am not angry just frustrated not hearing any information for the dir-855. The two routers have the same pcb, yet the dir-855 has a faster processor, a dedicated 802.11n transmitter, and a third antenna. I would just like a thread like this in the dir-855 forum knowing that dlink is still supporting their top end products! ::)
Just because its more expensive it does not mean anything and it does not mean its more popular either. The DGL 4500 has being out longer then the DIR 855 so people waited longer for things to be fixed. We don't have news on when the beda firmware is coming out for the DGL 4500 and considering this forum is for the DGL 4500 what makes you think that we would have new's on another router? You are posting in the WRONG forums and trying to get's Dlink attention on the DIR 855 instead of this one. You really have to do one thing and that's wait tell they are done testing and the beda is actually released for this router.Then I'm sure there make one for the DIR 855 since they are similar. Posting again and again is not going to solve anything.
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OK, so my router has been running for 13 days (not bad compared to before) and yesterday it rebooted itself even there was no heavy activities yesterday. My settings are full: DNS relay, Adv DNS, Gamefuel,.. but no WISH. So I say it's an improvement.
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OK, so my router has been running for 13 days (not bad compared to before) and yesterday it rebooted itself even there was no heavy activities yesterday. My settings are full: DNS relay, Adv DNS, Gamefuel,.. but no WISH. So I say it's an improvement.
Yea that's way better then 3 days lol and that's with all the DNS settings disabled. Just hope the new firmware is released on the forums soon.
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Locking this thread. We are beginning the 3rd phase of Beta testing.
If there were any unanswered questions here please refer to the new topic:
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=8823.0
Beta firmware topic:
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=8822.0