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[Hard Harry]

Cisco Model DPQ3212 8x4 DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem, you barfed last time you saw this, lol.

Nothing wrong with the DPq3212, its just a DPC3010 with a Cisco voice adapter attached. Just make sure your battery health is good...or even just take your battery out. (Against ISP ToS probably but what ever). I doubt your issue is your modem though.

[XS]

Stupid IW, I was in this lobby and the lag was real bad, I traced everyones IP and there was guy from flipping Ireland and Canada!!!!

Update: IP located in Ireland is Demonware server, stat tracking etc.  Should not be the cause of game lag.
http://gaming.wikia.com/wiki/Demonware

Anyway GF rules set up for local port 3074 and remote ports 1-65535, I think this might be the ticket due to the random ports on the other end!   My sons XBL actually expires tomorrow and he wants to renew so I will get screen shot of us both playing.

I also noticed with these screen shots anytime port 53,80,88 are on the remote end, it shows a random port for the local side.  So I would think if you are going to add any of the other ports to the GF rules, you should change the local range to 0-65535 and keep the remote range to that specific port (80,88.53).



65.55.42.52 Microsoft Hosting IP address state: Washington
209.170.124.205  IP address  country: Ireland   ISP of this IP [?]: Telia Network Services (see update above)
75.158.71.184  ISP of this IP [?]: Telus Communications –Canada
24.9.12.215 IP address state: Colorado ISP of this IP [?]: Comcast Cable
209.105.191.82 IP address state: Ohio ISP of this IP [?]: Fairpoint Communications
72.14.116.23 IP address state: Oregon ISP of this IP [?]: ISP Alliance Organization: Crestview Cable Communications
97.94.179.59 IP address state: California ISP of this IP [?]: Charter Communications
68.7.36.97 IP address state: California ISP of this IP [?]: Cox Communications
71.212.108.244 IP address state: Washington ISP of this IP [?]: Qwest Communications
97.113.10.216 IP address state: Washington ISP of this IP [?]: Qwest Communications
71.207.72.109 IP address state: Pennsylvania ISP of this IP [?]: Comcast Cable
174.134.252.211 IP address state: California ISP of this IP [?]: Bright House Networks

[Hard Harry]

The IP looks to route out of Vegas, but the player is probably in Ireland. And if I had to guess it's a game server run by Demonware for MW3? Hence you were playing MW3 on your Xbox.

Also yes, the only way you would ever see port 80 open on inbound was if you ran a web server off your network. The only think TCP requires port 80 for is for the request. Reason 3074 is open both in and out is because both you and the people are playing with are making requests from each other as you play. Lag usually isn't from latency but uncorrectables when  the game has to either request for the data to be sent again or wait for data to come in from other players.

[XS]

Interesting Harry I just noticed that IP address 209.170.124.205  shows up on every internet session while gaming just like the MS IP address 65.55.42.52.  Any idea why and why is it showing in Ireland???

Here is the info when I do an IP trace on both addresses:

IP address [?]: 209.170.124.205 Copy [Whois] [Reverse IP] IP country code: IE IP address country:  Ireland IP address state: Dublin IP address city: Dublin IP address latitude: 53.3331 IP address longitude: -6.2489 ISP of this IP [?]: Telia Network Services Organization: Demonware Limited Local time in Ireland: 2012-02-22 14:50

Whats the deal with 209.170.124.203, located in the same place?

IP address [?]: 65.55.42.52 Copy [Whois] [Reverse IP] IP country code: US IP address country:  United States IP address state: Washington IP address city: Redmond IP postcode: 98052 IP address latitude: 47.6801 IP address longitude: -122.1206 ISP of this IP [?]: Microsoft Hosting Organization: Microsoft Hosting.

Here is another screen shot when both my son are on at the same time.  Notice how both Xbox are using the correct local port 3074 but on the NAT it using a different port just as we thought.  Anyway you will also notice that you connect quite often to other Xbox's using a different port than 3074. 
As mentioned before, you may want to update the GF rules on the remote port side to 0-65535 for local port 3074.

Anyway, it is good to see my set up working correctly and I hope it stays like this.  This will probably be my last screen shot for MW3 unless someone has a request.  I am going to test out Black ops and see what ports it uses since I read on portforwarding.com it using two additional ports besides 3074.


 

[FurryNutz]

http://whois.domaintools.com/209.170.124.205

[XS]

Thanks furry, yeah I should have googled it first.
more info:
http://community.callofduty.com/message/205392975

http://www.demonware.net/

[FurryNutz]

Good info, thanks for sharing.

I presume that if you used a different game, say Halo or something other than COD, that you'd see different results. 

[XS]

I don't think so, all games should be using port 3074.  Check out the link below and scroll too the bottom for XBL games and ports used.  The only game I see using additional ports is Bops, UDP ports, 22728, 33233.

When I have time I will try out Halo, Bops and BF3.  However I think we have this figured out, lol.  Who knew me noticing one of my Xbox's using a random local port would lead to all this.   Too bad this info is about 5 years late, oh well I guess it would still apply for any routers using QoS.

Link to ports used for XBL games.
http://portforward.com/cports.htm

[FurryNutz]

Ya we know the ports that MS games Should be using. LOL. Thanks for all the foot work man. This is good info. I'll make it a sticky when I can get the current stickies moved to a new folder.

[XS]

Just wanted to post an in game screen shot while playing Bops since portforward.com suggested that Bops using two additional ports besides 3074.  Looking at the ports I believe PF.com is incorrect on the two additional ports.  The screen shot looks identical to MW3.

Plus, if you check the FAQ at Activison no where does it state Bops uses these other ports.
http://activision.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/activision.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=28857&p_created=1288879645&p_sid=dSPhf*Rk&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_srch=1&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9Niw2JnBfcHJvZHM9NDcyLDE3NTAmcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PTIuMTc1MCZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9cG9ydHM!&p_li=&p_topview=1

[FurryNutz]

One thing I like about XBL, minimal port usage.   3074 is the main one man.   The only one I used while playing M2, BO and MW3. I'm currently not using any GAMEFUEL rules right now. 

[XS]

Oh so you are using the DGL-4500 again?  How is it performing with no GF rules?  I have read that some people say it works better with no manual GF rules and just let the router do all the handling of the ports.

[FurryNutz]

Why dont you chk it out and let us know your results...

[XS]

Real funny furry!
Too bad eventually I probably will, lol.

[FurryNutz]