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Author Topic: dir-835 youtube, facebook and other sites problem (RESOLVED)  (Read 67696 times)

FurryNutz

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Re: dir-835 youtube, facebook and other sites problem
« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2012, 07:49:52 AM »

Also looking at your ISP Modem model, this is a GATEWAY modem, which I believe has a built in router.
Can you log into the Modems web page at 192.168.100.1? If so, can you see if there is a DMZ option any where with in the ISP Modems web page. If so, i would input the IP address that the 835 is getting on the WAN side located under Status/Device Info/Wan section on the 835 and see if this helps any. If this ISP modem has a router built in then it's possible you are encountering Double NAT. This can cause connection issues between the ISP Modem and external router and when you directly connect your PC to the ISP Modem, the problem will probably not present itself. Have this will cause any external router to not behave correctly and is not a problem of the external router.

If your 835 is getting a 192.168 pool address, then the the ISP Modem is handing out a private IP address and the external router, i.e. 835 needs a public IP address. Please let us know if the ISP modem has a web page and a DMZ option.


Arris TM602G/115

No chance to try with a different ISP for me.

If that can help, I have tried to replace ISP name servers with open DNS ones, with same results. Then I have tried with advanced DNS with no luck and returned to ISP assigned name servers. But is is still not working or rarely working bringing momentary false joy.
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Re: dir-835 youtube, facebook and other sites problem
« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2012, 08:57:45 AM »

I tried to connect to the admin interface of the modem but the IP addresses I tried did not respond. Probably they modify it to prevent tampering by end users. So I cannot tell you if there is a DMZ option...

Maybe the modem has a built-in router but there is only one ethernet connection on the back...
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Re: dir-835 youtube, facebook and other sites problem
« Reply #47 on: August 15, 2012, 09:06:12 AM »

Do you have any phone service thru this modem as well?

Shame you can't get in. I might call and ask your ISP and see if they can tell you anything.
The modem will only have one LAN port in back regardless if there is a built in router or not. It's all done electronically.

I'll be getting my 835 in soon and will see how this does on my system here in the U.S.  ;)

One thing you could try if your interested.
Turning a router into an AP.

If your modem has a built in router, might work better to let the modem handle the DHCP and NAT and then maybe have the 835 work as an AP. This will help eliminate double NAT. This is a suggestion for now. You can still wire and wirelessly connect to the 835 in this configuration, it's just the DHCP server, NAT and other options will be turned OFF and others not used.
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Re: dir-835 youtube, facebook and other sites problem
« Reply #48 on: August 17, 2012, 04:29:19 PM »

Well I got my DIR-835 today. I suppose some of you may not like what I have to report.  ::)

After installing it and setting up WiFi and a few other items. Router has been working great. I haven't updated FW. This is out of the box only. I have been able to log in to my FB account with out issue and browsed around some. I then watched Marilyn Manson and Nine Inch Nails videos on YouTube from beginning to end. Router seems to be doing ok so far. I'll do some gaming this weekend and see how that goes.

I feel this issue that some of your are experiencing is in Canada on this specific "Videotron" ISP and using Arris modems is probably the place where this problem is coming from. I don't think it's FW related as Canada and U.S. use the same FW.

If you need proof let me know and I'll post pics and give more of my info with the 835 I have.
I set up the 835 using the routers Wizard using a Mac Book Pro loaded with OSX 10.6.8.
Safari Browser.
ISP modem is Motorola SB 6180. CAT 6 cabling.
Wifi is Mixed G and N on 2.4Ghz and Single mode N on 5Ghz.
FW is v1.01 on a RevA1 router.
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Re: dir-835 youtube, facebook and other sites problem
« Reply #49 on: August 19, 2012, 07:54:05 PM »

I don't think we need any proof on that, I believe you. But one question... Why this problem only occur with the 835 and Arris modems... I never had such problems with any D-Link routers with my ISP.
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Re: dir-835 youtube, facebook and other sites problem
« Reply #50 on: August 19, 2012, 08:03:41 PM »

Finally I tried my 835 with Sympatico (other ISP) and it works. So it really looks like a compatibility issue between the ARIS (isp modem) and the DLink-835. I am using an old DLINK DI-524 and it works perfectly (except I sometime loose the internet access and I have to reboot the DLINK. that is why I changed the router in the first place).  REALLY HOPE DLink finds a solution....

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Re: dir-835 youtube, facebook and other sites problem
« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2012, 08:20:22 PM »

It sounds like this could be an Arris modem issue as well. Since you tried the 835 on a different ISP modem and it works, feel the issue lies with Arris AND DLink. Not sure if who would accept responsibility on this or what seems that the 835 does work on other ISP modems accept for the Arris. Seen many issues with Arris modems. Would be interesting to see if one of you could contact Arris directly and tell them what you've done and see if they might respond. Not sure if they will say anything or pass the buck to the ISP or to DLink. Of course, I'm sure that would happen too going back in the other direction too.  ;)
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Re: dir-835 youtube, facebook and other sites problem
« Reply #52 on: August 20, 2012, 04:44:30 PM »

How come then that if you plug directly the arris in the computer that it works ? How come that other routers work with ISP, including other DLink models ? The iSP actually tells the user that the problem is the router and they cannot do anything.

I do not think it is in the advantage of Dlink to ignore the issue considering the amount of suscribers to videotron in the quebec province (1 million if I remember).

Bestbuy and future shop are going to get a load of returns and the DLink brand continues to lose its reputation...


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Re: dir-835 youtube, facebook and other sites problem
« Reply #53 on: August 20, 2012, 05:00:25 PM »

Bestbuy and future shop do not refund after 30 days. It took me about that to figure out that it was the router that was the problem (Videotron saying it is my computer, DLInk says it is the ISP etc.) So I am stuck with the router and i HOPE DLink will release a firmware that will correct the problem.

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Re: dir-835 youtube, facebook and other sites problem
« Reply #54 on: August 20, 2012, 05:20:06 PM »

The problem could be anything at this point.
Arris modems are notorious for not working well with external routers, any Mfr external router as a matter of fact.

Could be that some Arris modems have built in routers in which already can cause connection issues since this introduces double NAT when using external routers. So when you by pass the external router, this problem is not seen when directly connected to the modem with the PC. Could be some odd interaction between the Arris modem and this particular model router or any external router, theres too many to really know what does and doesn't work. Some may work, some may not. Some have been able to get the 835 working using other Mfr ISP modems, and not Arris modems.

I have passed this on to DLink. It's in here hands. If users choose to return the 835 and find something that does work then that is recommended. I would also find a different mfr Modem and test as well. If ISPs support BOYM then I would recommend getting something other than Arris. If your ISP won't support BOYM then, I recommend that users deal with there ISPs and modems or in some cases, if the ISP modem has a built in router already, DO NOT to use an external router, rather get you a DLink DAP model AP device instead. These model APs are just that, wireless APs with out the router functions of external routers. In most cases, these DAP models will work with any modem that have built in routers just fine and where the modem is being the host router and using a external router may not be recommended in this case since this seems to cause Double NAT and connection problems. Usually if the modem can be bridged properly or if the modem has a DMZ option, then maybe using external routers could be used.

Dlink is aware of the problem and it's in there hands. I highly doubt DLinks reputation is on the line here. If your really concerned or bothered how this or any other DLink products work, You need to find something else that does. Again, this may or may not be a DLink issue. Maybe a combination of Arris and DLink at this point. All we can do is wait, or find other solutions. I'm sure DLink is aware of the frustrations that users are feeling. We all hope there is a fix or someone finds the solutions. Until then, make yourselves happier and find something that works. For those that continue to support D-Link and new users with this product, Please contact D-Link support directly. THe more they know and hear about this, the more they will be proactive in getting it resolved and provide everyone with additional help, support, information and a fix.

As far as I'm concerned, the issue lies with Arris, This certain ISP in Canada and DLink. The problem is not seen so far here in the U.S.

This thread is closed until further notice. It will be re-opened if the problem results in further information and or a resolution.

Good Luck.
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Re: dir-835 youtube, facebook and other sites problem
« Reply #55 on: December 07, 2012, 11:23:43 AM »

I'm re-opening this up since we are seeing this issue with a DIR-857 and another user on the ISP Videotron. There is talk of configuration of IPv6. Please review the following link and if anyone can test this out, please let us know the details:
http://forums.dlink.com/index.php?topic=51109.0

Maybe this can help some or get us going in a right direction.
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Re: dir-835 youtube, facebook and other sites problem
« Reply #56 on: December 09, 2012, 02:57:16 PM »

I will try that within 48h. Thank you for taking my issue seriously and Reopening the Thread.

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Re: dir-835 youtube, facebook and other sites problem
« Reply #57 on: December 09, 2012, 06:40:39 PM »

Keep us posted...
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Re: dir-835 youtube, facebook and other sites problem
« Reply #58 on: December 15, 2012, 05:09:48 AM »

Aslo have the same problem.

Yesterday I changed my Cisco for this Dlink, and now I cant load any youtube video.

Using Videotron ISP with their modem (phone/internet).

I'll check for a solution today, otherwise I'll return the router :(
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Re: dir-835 youtube, facebook and other sites problem
« Reply #59 on: December 15, 2012, 08:11:32 AM »

What isp make and model modem do you have?
What model is the cisco router?

Aslo have the same problem.

Yesterday I changed my Cisco for this Dlink, and now I cant load any youtube video.

Using Videotron ISP with their modem (phone/internet).

I'll check for a solution today, otherwise I'll return the router :(

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