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Author Topic: Rev A vs. Rev B  (Read 39866 times)

SBMongoos

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Re: Rev A vs. Rev B
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2009, 08:01:28 AM »

That's one way to look at it.  But these features are designed to be enabled and disabled.  I will say that I find it interesting that people are suggesting to disable features for better performance.  But this was during early stages of f/w where people have seen issues.
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SBMongoos

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Re: Rev A vs. Rev B
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2009, 07:04:20 AM »

Okay, I'm really curious here if Rev B is a better performer than Rev A.  Seems I'm seeing as many issues as one as with the other.  The specs or hardware in Rev B may be more impressive but is anybody getting better results/performance?  What about the f/w?  Looks like some are having issues.  Rev B is on it's way.  Hmm...
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claykin

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Re: Rev A vs. Rev B
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2009, 07:34:54 AM »

Rev B is quite new and is only on its second FW version.  Give it time, things will improve.

While it may not be totally right just yet, at least my Rev B does not lockup.
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SBMongoos

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Re: Rev A vs. Rev B
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2009, 08:07:30 AM »

Rev B is quite new and is only on its second FW version.  Give it time, things will improve.

While it may not be totally right just yet, at least my Rev B does not lockup.

I have to admit I've not had this issue with Rev A.  I'm still using the f/w that came with it.  I have some speed issues (I thought, Firefox turned out to be an issue) but seems to be tweaked out along with uninstalling/reinstalling FF (have seen issues after bigger updates with FF).  Was seeing some other problems earlier on but don't remember what they were exactly.  I think it may have been some disconnects.  Long enough now I don't remember (preoccupied at the moment... so). 

I've been a fan of Atheros though.  I did have the DIR-784 back a while ago.  Every once in a while it would lock up tighter than a drum.  I figured out a way to get it back on track and it was a major PITA but the process always worked.  It was best to either use 802.11a or g with that unit versus having both on as I think that caused the lockups.  Looking back at it know I'm sure that was the issue.  I was using 802.11a quite some time ago just to be off the radar in my area as "a" was so rare then.  Still is in my area.
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memphis2k

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Re: Rev A vs. Rev B
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2009, 01:32:46 AM »

I agree with the last guy,

I'm running 1.01 on H/W A1 and not an issue.  Will not upgrade any further with all the people complaining.

4 Machines running Windows 7 RTM x64 with SharePoint...no issues.  I torrent a lot, no reboots, download gigs, FTP up gigs to my web server.  Running OpenDNS & D-Links DDyns (old server).  This bad boy copies from/to my laptop anywhere from 7MB's, to 15MB's a second.  Yes, thats megabytes!  Its unbelievable, and my old WRT54G could only do around 2.5MB's.  My lappy is using an Intel 5100 series card, but the funny thing with that is, its not a 5GHz card yet I am connected on my 5GHz network, (Have two separate SSIDs for 2.4 & 5).  Never reboots, maybe about once a month if I'm feeling in a good mood.

:::wonders if B1 would be better:::  ;D
« Last Edit: August 18, 2009, 01:34:22 AM by memphis2k »
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claykin

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Re: Rev A vs. Rev B
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2009, 04:51:16 AM »

This bad boy copies from/to my laptop anywhere from 7MB's, to 15MB's a second.  Yes, thats megabytes!  Its unbelievable, and my old WRT54G could only do around 2.5MB's.  My lappy is using an Intel 5100 series card, but the funny thing with that is, its not a 5GHz card yet I am connected on my 5GHz network, (Have two separate SSIDs for 2.4 & 5).  Never reboots, maybe about once a month if I'm feeling in a good mood.

:::wonders if B1 would be better:::  ;D

All Intel 5100 series wifi cards are a/g/n (2.4 and 5Ghz).  See here:  http://download.intel.com/network/connectivity/products/wireless/319981.pdf

Your WRT54G was working properly and delivering 2.5MB/s using a 54Mb/s technology.  Your DIR-825 is also operating properly delivering up to 15MB/s using a 300Mb/s technology.

If your A1 is working for you, why consider trading it?

In my case the B1 has been fairly good, but does have some quirkyness.  See my other posts for more details....

I don't have any "n" clients to test with right now, but using a/g clients (Atheros 5004x and Intel 2200/3945) I am getting no more than 2MB/s (usually more like 1.5MB/s) with my DIR-825 B1 using either no encryption, WPA/TKIP or WPA2/AES.  I blame the router since I was getting 2.5MB/s with my old a/g Netgear router running WPA/TKIP.

One day soon I'll test with an "n" client such as the 5100 series to confirm "n" performance.
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SBMongoos

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Re: Rev A vs. Rev B
« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2009, 07:44:01 AM »

I agree with the last guy,

I'm running 1.01 on H/W A1 and not an issue.  Will not upgrade any further with all the people complaining.

4 Machines running Windows 7 RTM x64 with SharePoint...no issues.  I torrent a lot, no reboots, download gigs, FTP up gigs to my web server.  Running OpenDNS & D-Links DDyns (old server).  This bad boy copies from/to my laptop anywhere from 7MB's, to 15MB's a second.  Yes, thats megabytes!  Its unbelievable, and my old WRT54G could only do around 2.5MB's.  My lappy is using an Intel 5100 series card, but the funny thing with that is, its not a 5GHz card yet I am connected on my 5GHz network, (Have two separate SSIDs for 2.4 & 5).  Never reboots, maybe about once a month if I'm feeling in a good mood.

:::wonders if B1 would be better:::  ;D

Claykin's right about your speeds and WiFi. 

I think the question still stands about why bother moving from Rev A to Rev B.  I hope to hell I haven't made a mistake.  Rev B is to show up today but I'm heading out of state early a.m. tomorrow.  Won't have time to connect and test.
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SBMongoos

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Re: Rev A vs. Rev B
« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2009, 05:14:12 PM »

Some questions:

    * Also, apparently 3rd party f/w will be able to OC this thing to the 800Mhz. Is this correct?
    * Which f/w to use with the Rev B?
    * Are there any settings in the f/w for B that are recommending to be turned off for better performance?  I was reading such things for A1 f/w.
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claykin

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Re: Rev A vs. Rev B
« Reply #23 on: August 18, 2009, 05:20:52 PM »

Some questions:

    * Also, apparently 3rd party f/w will be able to OC this thing to the 800Mhz. Is this correct?
    * Which f/w to use with the Rev B?
    * Are there any settings in the f/w for B that are recommending to be turned off for better performance?  I was reading such things for A1 f/w.

1)  Dunno about 3rd party capabilities.  Don't worry so much about CPU clock speed.
2)  V2.02NA (if you are in North America)
3)  I'm pretty much at default settings.  Mine is setup in AP mode so I'm not using firewall, DHCP, DNS, etc...  Note, that you may find certain setting changes can cause the web admin interface to become non responsible.  Don't fret, just power cycle.

Enjoy and have a safe trip.  Maybe new firmware will be available by the time you return.  :)  (Listen up Dlink)
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SBMongoos

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Re: Rev A vs. Rev B
« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2009, 05:33:35 PM »

1)  Dunno about 3rd party capabilities.  Don't worry so much about CPU clock speed.
2)  V2.02NA (if you are in North America)
3)  I'm pretty much at default settings.  Mine is setup in AP mode so I'm not using firewall, DHCP, DNS, etc...  Note, that you may find certain setting changes can cause the web admin interface to become non responsible.  Don't fret, just power cycle.

Enjoy and have a safe trip.  Maybe new firmware will be available by the time you return.  :)  (Listen up Dlink)

Won't be gone long enough for that to happen.  The Rev B just arrived.  A new one.  :-) 
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SBMongoos

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Re: Rev A vs. Rev B
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2009, 10:38:43 AM »

Setup Rev B with 2.02NA f/w.  Configured the router and saved a config backup.  We'll see what happens. I do like the new look on the front plate.  Much easier to read than before and clear markings for which WiFi radio is enabled, etc.

Have 5Ghz disabled for now and look to do some multimedia down the road.  Disabled the features that I also turned off on Rev A.  Any thoughts on this please share.

A few questions:
  • When the lights are yellow on the front it seems clear that this is a status of checking or connecting. They turn blue when all is well and a connection is established. Correct?
  • There is a button on the top of the router (with Rev A and B).  I have mine standing on end.  What is this button for?  A power cycle or some sort of cold boot?

This one was more of a bear to get on the internet with.  Typically I'm up and running with a DLink even after configuring.  It seems that it's a good idea to use the Reboot the Device under Tools and then you're good to go.  Perhaps this was intentional?  Seems a bit odd but maybe a safety measure?

Edit:  odd as I cannot connect to Rev B wirelessly with my laptop which has an Atheros chipset on the card I installed.  Connects fine to my girlfriends older Toshiba though.  I could connect fine to the Rev A. When I open the Atheros utility I see it switching back and forth between 2.4 and 5Ghz via the Wireless Mode.  Only 2.4Ghz is enabled.  Same way I configured the Rev A.

-> Interesting.  I may have done this with Rev A but don't remember.  I disabled the Atheros utility and used the Windows WiFi utility to connect and got right on.  Seems odd.  I'm using an older version of the Atheros Utility so I wonder if it's an issue with having WPA (AES/TPIK) enabled and it won't connect. I looks like it's getting hung up trying to authenticate.  Using version 3.1.3.10 of the Atheros Client Utility. Copyright shows 2001-2004.

Trying to find the latest driver (and utility) for the WM9 which uses the AR5213 and the AR5112 chip sets on the mini WiFi card.
« Last Edit: August 25, 2009, 12:12:06 PM by SBMongoos »
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BassMan

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Re: Rev A vs. Rev B
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2009, 11:47:34 AM »

Setup Rev B with 2.02NA f/w.  Configured the router and saved a config backup.  We'll see what happens. I do like the new look on the front plate.  Much easier to read than before and clear markings for which WiFi radio is enabled, etc.

Have 5Ghz disabled for now and look to do some multimedia down the road.  Disabled the features that I also turned off on Rev A.  Any thoughts on this please share.

A few questions:
  • When the lights are yellow on the front it seems clear that this is a status of checking or connecting. They turn blue when all is well and a connection is established. Correct?
  • There is a button on the top of the router (with Rev A and B).  I have mine standing on end.  What is this button for?  A power cycle or some sort of cold boot?

This one was more of a bear to get on the internet with.  Typically I'm up and running with a DLink even after configuring.  It seems that it's a good idea to use the Reboot the Device under Tools and then you're good to go.  Perhaps this was intentional?  Seems a bit odd but maybe a safety measure?

Edit:  odd as I cannot connect to Rev B wirelessly with my laptop which has an Atheros chipset on the card I installed.  Connects fine to my girlfriends older Toshiba though.  I could connect fine to the Rev A. When I open the Atheros utility I see it switching back and forth between 2.4 and 5Ghz via the Wireless Mode.  Only 2.4Ghz is enabled.  Same way I configured the Rev A.

-> Interesting.  I may have done this with Rev A but don't remember.  I disabled the Atheros utility and used the Windows WiFi utility to connect and got right on.  Seems odd.  I'm using an older version of the Atheros Utility so I wonder if it's an issue with having WPA (AES/TPIK) enabled and it won't connect. I looks like it's getting hung up trying to authenticate.  Using version 3.1.3.10 of the Atheros Client Utility. Copyright shows 2001-2004.

When I tested from a few rooms away last night, 2.4GHz was *much* stronger than 5GHz (D-Link DWA-160).

Blue lights are good, yes.
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claykin

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Re: Rev A vs. Rev B
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2009, 04:25:08 PM »

Using version 3.1.3.10 of the Atheros Client Utility. Copyright shows 2001-2004.

Trying to find the latest driver (and utility) for the WM9 which uses the AR5213 and the AR5112 chip sets on the mini WiFi card.

Latest Atheros client and driver.  ftp://lizzi555.dyndns.org/Download/WLAN/Atheros/Atheros_5_x_x_x/
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SBMongoos

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Re: Rev A vs. Rev B
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2009, 06:53:13 AM »

I have 7.7.0.329.  But it's the driver only.  Do you know if the version you're pointing to is the last one with the client?
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claykin

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Re: Rev A vs. Rev B
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2009, 06:58:02 AM »

I have 7.7.0.329.  But it's the driver only.  Do you know if the version you're pointing to is the last one with the client?

The link I provided has both drivers and the full package with the Atheros client.
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