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Author Topic: Xbox One Crashing My Router?  (Read 59670 times)

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Re: Xbox One Crashing My Router?
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2013, 09:41:19 AM »

Awesome info...will have my buddy take a look at this as well. Keep us posted.

BTW, the DGL-5500 is a router and not a router/modem unit.  ::)
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Re: Xbox One Crashing My Router?
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2013, 03:50:52 PM »

I wanted to confirm that switching to Energy Saving mode on my friends XB1 has resolved the Moderate nat issue and is now OPEN. Thank you Dyvurcz for finding that work around. I'll post this in the XBL stickies as well so people know. Hope MS will do something about that. I knew this wasn't a router issue.  ::)
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Re: Xbox One Crashing My Router?
« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2013, 09:07:44 PM »

I've updated all the XBL stickies in the FAQ Library with information regarding the Instant On issue and links to Xbox.com port information for the XB1. Enjoy.
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Re: Xbox One Crashing My Router?
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2013, 09:19:46 PM »

Good stuff guys ;D Really like the flow and research that comes thru these forums.....ROCKIN ;)

Update:

So tried to play BF4 online tonight and X1 could not connect to the cloud. I added the additional port forwarding rules and rebooted the router and was able to multiplay BF4.
Here are the 3 additional ports I added:
    500 (UDP)
    3544 (UDP)
    4500 (UDP)

Thus far UPNP is enabled and ALL port forwarding rules have been applied and have open NAT. Having some stuttering, not sure if it's my 5g wireless or XBOX servers?

I read the article about power saving mode vs Instant On. I tried both and still recieved an open NAT. Will keep an eye on it
« Last Edit: November 29, 2013, 10:41:42 PM by Lexist2112 »
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Re: Xbox One Crashing My Router?
« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2013, 05:14:02 AM »

Awesome!  I've got help plenty of times here so I'm glad to be able to contribute for once lol  8)
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Re: Xbox One Crashing My Router?
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2013, 09:09:02 AM »

Anyone seeing port 3075 instead of 3074 being used on a single XB1 session?
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Re: Xbox One Crashing My Router?
« Reply #36 on: December 03, 2013, 07:53:49 AM »

Got info back from D-Link, there testing of XB1 on the 5500 and a DIR-868L. All has open NAT using default settings on wired and WiFi. No crashing of routers reported.

They did mention the following:

The thread does touch on a few items that we cover in our NAT troubleshooting documentation on the Xbox One support site (http://support.xbox.com/en-US/browse/xbox-one/networking), such as:
Try enabling port forwarding for UDP 3074, 3544, 4500 and 500 (some new ports added for Xbox One from what 360 used).

Failing that, try adding the console to the DMZ.

Ensure that you’re not double NAT’d (Customers don’t realize that their ISP supplied modem is actually a router.

Either setting the console into energy saving mode or pressing and holding the power button for 5 seconds to do a hard reboot as some setting changes on the router or console might not take effect when coming out of standby on the Xbox One.

Pressing both triggers + both buttons on the controller in the Multiplayer Troubleshooter to refresh the NAT type of the console.



I finally got my friends XB1 fully connected last nite on OPEN NAT with this 2 DIR-868Ls so I hope he'll be good to go. Instant ON feature is disabled.
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Re: Xbox One Crashing My Router?
« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2013, 09:03:15 AM »

Got info back from D-Link, there testing of XB1 on the 5500 and a DIR-868L. All has open NAT using default settings on wired and WiFi. No crashing of routers reported.

Do you know how much testing they've done? As in, leave it hooked up for days and power down and up periodically to check the NAT. When I hooked up my Xbox One initially, it was reporting an open NAT. It wasn't until I checked again later that it had changed to strict.

On this topic, I did have a similar experience, not sure if it will help the OP or others. When I went to set up port forwarding, I did it in this order: set up the forwarded ports, saved, then set up the IP reservations for the Xbox One and saved. This caused the router to stop working. Even after a reset. I had to remove the port forwarding and IP reservation to get the router working again. I then did them in the opposite order: reserve IP, save, set up port forwarding, save. And that worked.
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Re: Xbox One Crashing My Router?
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2013, 09:21:42 AM »

I don't know the content or duration of testing they and MS have done. All I now is that D-Link and MS have and are currently working with this router and I presume others to ensure both are working well using default settings. They didn't do any PFg or didn't seem to need it and only suggested PFg if default settings didn't work along with the other suggestions. In most cases, if the router is the only NAT, there isn't any need for PFg for XBL, at least with the 360. I presume the XB1 shouldn't either however anything is possible. If uPnP is enabled, this should handle most of the port behavior with connected devices with out PFg. I only recommend using the QoS on those routers that have that feature to handle the gaming and general traffic priorities if other devices are online while gaming.

NAT is a big issue and I've strived to help users understand that ISP modems can impact the use of external routers. I know you have a stand alone ISP modem, however some people don't so it makes it harder to configure routers to work with these modems with built in routers. Like my friend in CA, we got him 2 DIR-868Ls, one main router, the other in bridge mode for gaming. His ISP modem is a Motorola SB 6580 with built in router. We didn't get time to attempt to bridge it so we used the DMZ for the main host router. After going thru everything we got open NAT on his 360 and XB1. Ya, instant ON was disabled. We hope it keeps working. It sure is a process. ::)

Usually the process for setting up configurations on these routers are to start with reserving IPs. Then setting up the features that may be depended upon the IPs being reserved first.

Do you know how much testing they've done? As in, leave it hooked up for days and power down and up periodically to check the NAT. When I hooked up my Xbox One initially, it was reporting an open NAT. It wasn't until I checked again later that it had changed to strict.

On this topic, I did have a similar experience, not sure if it will help the OP or others. When I went to set up port forwarding, I did it in this order: set up the forwarded ports, saved, then set up the IP reservations for the Xbox One and saved. This caused the router to stop working. Even after a reset. I had to remove the port forwarding and IP reservation to get the router working again. I then did them in the opposite order: reserve IP, save, set up port forwarding, save. And that worked.
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Re: Xbox One Crashing My Router?
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2013, 10:34:00 AM »

Usually the process for setting up configurations on these routers are to start with reserving IPs. Then setting up the features that may be depended upon the IPs being reserved first.

Yeah. I figured that was the case. I think I just did it in the order of screens I happened to access. I thought I would post the wrong way to let others know that may cause an issue.
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Re: Xbox One Crashing My Router?
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2013, 10:45:40 AM »

Thank you for sharing.

 ;)

Yeah. I figured that was the case. I think I just did it in the order of screens I happened to access. I thought I would post the wrong way to let others know that may cause an issue.
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Re: Xbox One Crashing My Router?
« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2013, 06:10:28 AM »

One experience I would like to share on the NAT issues with XBone, the network setting say that I have strict NAT, but Call of Duty says my NAT is open.  I might not put too much stock in the systems settings if the game says you are fine.
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Re: Xbox One Crashing My Router?
« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2013, 07:28:02 AM »

One experience I would like to share on the NAT issues with XBone, the network setting say that I have strict NAT, but Call of Duty says my NAT is open.  I might not put too much stock in the systems settings if the game says you are fine.

Good point. It's just the strict NAT often causes an error when you try to enable party chat.
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Re: Xbox One Crashing My Router?
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2013, 07:33:18 AM »

Any try this to change NAT status?

Pressing both triggers + both buttons on the controller in the Multiplayer Troubleshooter to refresh the NAT type of the console.
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Re: Xbox One Crashing My Router?
« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2013, 07:50:52 AM »

Just out of curiosity what 2 buttons?  The former 'back' and 'start' buttons?
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